From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13366 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2023 19:53:04 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jun 2023 19:53:04 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qBhPE-00GEr7-2G for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:52:52 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qBhPE-001rQw-0G for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:52:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qBhPC-001rQp-1a for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:52:46 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qBhP9-00GEqj-2V for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:52:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=GNdeRtUDKSU3oQE5nl8jfWZRxns5TjcPG7IJpS4Qw3s=; b=kWqDAkN4GQG9DZIDoa0J0sBXPy sJduQDO0v8KKWZ7XGl27nrwQJ3iCq5jVq0VlfzF/QSl07qKm2FJ/k+PYi/p7bH9Req1ri08RgcDWH AYM6ol3m1+oKr5QfgUCNi9kXGvoHRtdCzPZ3v2jvuInU7TzbQthYsWPJe7j66PS2foPs=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qBhP2-00023d-EA for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 21:52:38 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qBhOz-0002cb-CD for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 21:52:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org To: ding@gnus.org From: Steinar Bang Subject: Re: Emacs 28.2 gnus: nntp read marks lost after going offline and online again Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 21:52:26 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <87352lj4hx.fsf@dod.no> References: <871qi7ld1z.fsf@dod.no> <87sfanju2y.fsf@dod.no> <87edm7jqj7.fsf@dod.no> <877cryhr7n.fsf@dod.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MVioTJW2Hrkuee+xggbXrpMHQW0= Mail-Copies-To: never List-ID: Precedence: bulk >>>>> Steinar Bang : >>>> And twice, since then, all of my nntp servers have lost all groups >>>> and read marks. Today it happened when I toggled gnus offline into >>>> online, not sure that was what happened yesterday. >>> Three times now. >>> This time when emacs was just sitting there doing nothing, and the nntp >>> groups went AWOL. >> Happened again. Four times now. >> All ideas for how to track this down are welcome. > This is what it looks like when the groups and articles have gone away: > https://www.bang.priv.no/screenshots/gnus_no_articles.png > No servers have closed for me. This is the server buffer after articles > and groups have been lost: > https://www.bang.priv.no/screenshots/gnus_server_no_articles.png > This is what gnus looks like, after stopping gnus and restarting it: > https://www.bang.priv.no/screenshots/gnus_after_stop_and_start.png > Ie. everything works normal until gnus starts looking like the first > screenshot. I saw it happen before my eyes now. It happens when gnus fetches new news, I think. This is what was in the *Messages* buffer: Checking new news... Reading active file from cloud via nnimap... Opening nnimap server on cloud...done Reading active file from cloud via nnimap...done Reading active file via nndiary...done nnimap read 0k from imap.bang.priv.no (initial sync of 1 group; please wait) Reading active file via nndraft...done Reading active file via nnml... Reading incoming mail from file... nnml: Reading incoming mail (no new mail)...done Reading active file via nnml...done Checking new news...done Two things of note here: 1. It now apparently checks the cloud file automatically? That's new (for me) 2. There are no lines of output for fetching with nntp