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[96.232.253.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e15-20020ac8670f000000b002e22d9c756dsm650212qtp.30.2022.04.19.15.15.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:15:36 -0700 (PDT) From: dick To: Sergio Durigan Junior Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: gnus-search-imap and quoted queries References: <87mtghgikv.fsf@sergiodj.net> <877d7k7ock.fsf@dick> <875yn4g3f1.fsf@sergiodj.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:15:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875yn4g3f1.fsf@sergiodj.net> (Sergio Durigan Junior's message of "Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:37:54 -0400") Message-ID: <8735i87m9j.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.14 (Gnus v5.14) Commercial/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk SDJ> I'm aware of what C-u does in this case, but IIUC the new SDJ> gnus-search backend should translate my query into Dovecot's SDJ> parlance Transpilation, even for a simple grammar, is a lot to ask from an obscure 25yo mail user agent. Even if that had been done, it wouldn't have been done well. At this point I'd `C-u C-M-x` on (cl-defmethod gnus-search-run-search ((engine gnus-search-imap) in gnus-search.el to step through. I know that's out-of-depth for many gnusers, which always struck me as odd given the elisp chops implicitly required by gnus's incomprehensibility.