From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78591 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Sullivan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: New messages marked O before seeing them Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:32:07 -0400 Message-ID: <8739l6q7x4.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> References: <87ei69praf.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87vczkcld3.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <871v27zoqh.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303776577 5057 80.91.229.12 (26 Apr 2011 00:09:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:09:37 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26894@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 26 02:09:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QEVqP-00013T-4M for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:09:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QEVpX-0001Pb-GU; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:08:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QEVpW-0001PR-7g for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QEVpH-0000l4-9r for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QEVpF-0000nA-7y for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:21 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QEVpB-0000df-Lt for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:17 +0200 Original-Received: from c-24-147-168-134.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.168.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:17 +0200 Original-Received: from john by c-24-147-168-134.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 49 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-168-134.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SVGwb04fCNkkJL373iEFlpOnyJc= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78591 Archived-At: John Sullivan writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen gnus.org> writes: > >> >> John Sullivan wjsullivan.net> writes: >> >> > Not a for-sure recipe :/ Try sending yourself a few dozen messages with >> > the folder open for an hour or so. During that time, delete a few >> > messages, move a few messages to another group, read a few messages. >> > Then / N. That's closer to the conditions under which I see it. >> >> Could you try to provoke the bug with a simpler recipe? >> >> > Finally, I'd try the same thing as the first recipe, but instead of >> > doing / N, just quit the group, re-enter it, quit it again, fetch new >> > mail, and enter it again. >> >> I haven't seen any issues with non-`/ N' IMAP group usage, though... >> > > > So, I can reproduce this with a command in cron that emails me every minute. > > echo "Test" | mail me@example.com -s "`date -u`" > > Out of 116 test messages sent, 17 were marked O without me seeing them. > > To reproduce it, it does not seem to be enough to just have the folder open > while the mail is arriving. I think other activity, such as moving and replying > to mail, is also necessary. But I haven't pinned that down yet. > > In an hour while I was away from the computer with the folder open and the > program running, no mails were marked O. But while actually working in the > folder, those 17 were. I have a sneaking suspicion that I may have solved this by setting (setq gnus-gcc-mark-as-read nil). It was t before, and my mails are GCC'd to the inbox. My suspicion is that somehow the wrong messages are being marked as read, targeting incoming mail instead of the Gcc'd mail just written. Since I've made that change, I have seen no more new messages marked read, despite receiving 1 a minute and using my inbox under approximately the same conditions as the ones which produced the negative effects before. -john