From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76748 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: auth-source.el and eieio Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:26:38 +0100 Message-ID: <8739nq5mup.fsf@randomsample.de> References: <87y65jqthf.fsf@gnus.org> <87tyg6skad.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj1isgsh.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hbc65xdi.fsf@randomsample.de> <87pqquqyu7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8762sm2wyb.fsf@gnus.org> <87pqqupbpm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vd0muxfk.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297718858 27277 80.91.229.12 (14 Feb 2011 21:27:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:27:38 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25087@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Feb 14 22:27:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp5xF-0002eS-FT for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:27:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp5xC-0004E1-Ie; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:27:30 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp5xB-0004De-2C for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:27:29 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp5xA-0000CS-Dc for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:27:28 -0600 Original-Received: from v3-1008.vxen.de ([79.140.41.8]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp5x9-0001s5-LU for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:27:27 +0100 Original-Received: from dslc-082-082-165-009.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.82.165.9] helo=spaten) by v3-1008.vxen.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp5x8-0007mr-Mu for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:27:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87vd0muxfk.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:18:55 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1677--4103h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1612--3944h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1557--3811h-0s--0d--H*u:linux, 0.000-1557--3811h-0s--0d--H*UA:linux, 0.000-1501--3672h-0s--0d--H*UA:gnu Spam tokens: 0.938-1841--1054h-35682s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.864-4734--29374h-420491s--0d--H*r:helo Autolearn status: no 2.2 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY RBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy [82.82.165.9 listed in combined.njabl.org] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76748 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Ted Zlatanov writes: > >> No, 23.1 or earlier currently (not intentionally, I thought EIEIO came >> in earlier). Considering 23.2 came out May 2010, it's not unreasonable >> to expect it in 2011. > > If you're running Debian Stale, then you may still have an older > version. (But I haven't actually checked.) Fortunately, Debian was just upgraded from stale to stable. It's 23.2. ;-) http://packages.debian.org/stable/emacs > While it would mean less work not to support older Emacs versions, I > think it would be nice to do so, if it's possible. I agree it would be nice if Gnus would at least compile on older Emacsen, but I think it's acceptable that some features don't work or need additional packages. I think we have this situation already for stuff needing EPG/EPA, for instance? -David