From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67639 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:23:53 +0200 Message-ID: <873air44me.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86d4i1ft75.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224535249 5779 80.91.229.12 (20 Oct 2008 20:40:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:40:49 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16091@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Oct 20 22:41:49 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KrxZZ-0003bc-2c for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:25:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KrxYB-0006lT-3c; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:24:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KrxY9-0006lI-Up for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:24:09 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KrxY4-0003H9-N8 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:24:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KrxYB-0007Dq-00 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:24:11 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9KGNvQK017494; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:23:57 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B301C7CB; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:23:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: 1;h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB;kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm;%Od (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:15:47 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-CollegeOfNewCaledonia-Metrics: poseidon 1189; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67639 gmane.emacs.devel:104687 Archived-At: On Thu, Oct 16 2008, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > 2. > Type `C-c C-m p text/plain RET' in the message buffer and add > charset=utf8 manually as follows: > > < #part type="text/plain" disposition=inline charset=utf8> > > In this case the message will be sent with charset=utf8 . > By this result I got to think the system-wide utf8 alias might > be harmful. Doesn't this already happen when no alias is present (or when using some bogus charset, say "bogus-8"). [quoting reordered] > Note that adding (utf8 . utf-8) to `mm-charset-synonym-alist' > causes the same problem (I verified it with Emacs 22.3). I'm surprised that `mm-charset-synonym-alist' has any effect on outgoing messages. I though it would only be used when displaying an article. Could you please investigate this? > The utf8 alias is needed only for reading wrong configured messages, > isn't it? If so, I think it is enough using > `gnus-summary-show-article-charset-alist'. > cf. (info "(gnus)Paging the Article") Maybe we should consider providing some entries in `gnus-summary-show-article-charset-alist' by default. Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org, since this is mostly Gnus-related. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/