From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65481 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus in Emacs is updated to No Gnus 0.7 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:30:03 +0100 Message-ID: <873avumigk.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odejy30k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860710281956u3d8ce51dr57a8b0145a59f205@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193648528 10406 80.91.229.12 (29 Oct 2007 09:02:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, Miles Bader To: "Daiki Ueno" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 29 10:02:10 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ImQVZ-0008CS-AW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:02:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ImQVQ-0005C5-1P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ImQVM-00059J-H2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ImQVL-00054v-0c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ImQVK-00054M-J8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:01:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ImQ78-0007s3-9Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:36:50 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Oct 2007 08:30:06 -0000 Original-Received: from p57A20C49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO LKG29808F.local) [87.162.12.73] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 29 Oct 2007 09:30:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+SQndMxVuSyoROl+TId9yUCFF/qso39gjqQ6nVSo mJwtgUBNKfoopo In-Reply-To: <54a15d860710281956u3d8ce51dr57a8b0145a59f205@mail.gmail.com> (Daiki Ueno's message of "Mon\, 29 Oct 2007 11\:56\:56 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82039 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65481 Archived-At: "Daiki Ueno" writes: > 2007/10/28, Miles Bader : >> 2) It includes "password.el" (in lisp/gnus), which I seemed to >> remember was not liked in previous emacs-devel discussion. However >> that's a small enough file that I suppose it can be easily replaced >> if necessary. > > I can't remember the previous discussion, but I think it's not so bad > for *applications* (such as Gnus) to use password.el. I'd just say > that it's bad if it is implicitly used by low-level *libraries* such > as pgg.el. Tramp uses also password.el if it is in the load path. It is a convenient library if somebody uses an scp-like method, but does not run ssh-agent. It would be important to know whether there are deficiencies which would make the use of password.el impossible for Tramp. > Regards, Best regards, Michael.