From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64823 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: [gmane.emacs.devel] gnus-read-mark not preserved Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:52:16 +0200 Message-ID: <873b0oxwpr.fsf@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182283243 5666 80.91.229.12 (19 Jun 2007 20:00:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:00:43 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13334@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jun 19 22:00:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I0jsP-0005G9-Pq for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:00:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0jr9-0006Ht-Pm; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:59:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0XaL-0002vs-5Y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:53:05 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I0XaJ-0002lW-TJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:53:05 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1I0XaI-0004av-00 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:53:02 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I0Xa4-0005DS-8b for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:52:48 +0200 Original-Received: from i577bcafd.versanet.de ([87.123.202.253]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:52:48 +0200 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i577bcafd.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:52:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 117 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i577bcafd.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64823 Archived-At: --=-=-= This has not yet garnered a response over at emacs-devel, and I'm still seeing the problem. Is this list appropriate? I'm not sure if it's an Emacs or Gnus bug or a server or user problem. I don't know if it's relevant, but I always start Gnus with gnus-unplugged. Steve Berman --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: gnus-read-mark not preserved Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:23:53 +0200 Lines: 30 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <87lkf0f4ye.fsf@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1180949076 29464 80.91.229.12 (4 Jun 2007 09:24:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:24:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 04 11:24:35 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hv8nh-0000W6-ND for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:24:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hv8ng-0007lf-C8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:24:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hv8nc-0007la-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:24:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hv8nZ-0007ho-TX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:24:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hv8nZ-0007hJ-Oa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hv8nZ-0001TY-AO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hv8nP-0005ON-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:24:15 +0200 Original-Received: from i577bcd98.versanet.de ([87.123.205.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:24:15 +0200 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i577bcd98.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:24:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i577bcd98.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72204 Archived-At: MIME-Version: 1.0 When I read newsgroup articles with Gnus they get marked with `R' (gnus-read-mark) and are not displayed the next time I enter the group. However, I have been noticing that, when I 1. enter a group that satisfies gnus-large-newsgroup, 2. have Gnus fetch less than all the articles, 3. read articles, exit the group, and at some point exit Emacs, then the next time I enter the group in a new Emacs session, the articles I read the last time are displayed, i.e., not marked read. I am not certain this happens every time and with every group, and I am not certain, but I think, this does not happen when I fetch all unread articles. I have noticed this repeatedly with gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs and gmane.emacs.devel (I have gnus-select-method set to '(nntp "news.gmane.org"); those are the groups for which conditions 1 and 2 above most often hold according to my Gnus usage. I am currently using GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.6) of 2007-06-02 on escher, but I have noticed this for some time on CVS builds, though I cannot say how long (but I'm pretty sure I haven't experienced this for a very long time, otherwise I would have reported it earlier, though possibly my usage wrt condition 2 has changed, making this appear more frequently for me). Is this a Gnus bug, or a Gmane bug, or am I overlooking some setting that triggers this behavior? Steve Berman --=-=-=--