From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52868 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Fuchs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Crypto key bindings considered harmful Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <873cj09xgn.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <87fzn0eexx.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054052597 13626 80.91.224.249 (27 May 2003 16:23:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1412@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 27 18:23:13 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19KhC4-0003Jz-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 18:20:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19KhDn-0007hA-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 11:22:43 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19KhDf-0007h4-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 May 2003 11:22:35 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 77484 invoked by alias); 27 May 2003 16:22:34 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 77479 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 16:22:34 -0000 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (80.91.224.249) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 16:22:34 -0000 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Kh91-00030k-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 18:17:47 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Kh5g-0002hI-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 18:14:20 +0200 Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-Url: http://asf.void.at/ X-Attribution: asf X-Face: 3*3w/y?I6|`'CYW7F~m0]U1)L\|[x"?/V6^;s3FU#q|F'AL(3C?$eslHvAmR:KjT"&LZeqM 0wMS%HM` Cancel-Lock: sha1:4/SYeQRsMqNDkFt14Y+54ljUPvs= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52868 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52868 Today, Florian Weimer wrote: > Key sequences such as 'C-c C-m c' are a *very* bad idea. Guess > why. 8-/ Ugh, right. > The crypto support has more serious usability problems (e.g. if the > '#secure' tag is not at the beginning of the message, it is ignored > without warning *sigh*). Add "if there are more than one #secure tags present, only the first one is used" - much fun can be had with an "auto-sign?" question when sending the mail, but the mail should be encrypted. > Is anybody looking at such issues? I plan to write a general check > list to evaluate crypto-enabled mail clients, but I can't promise > anything right now (too much other tasks). Sounds like a great idea. -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs irc.freenode.net's #emacs - online emacs advice from IRC addicts