* Re: Any interest in creating an nnfediverse backend?
2020-09-24 16:56 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-09-24 18:00 ` Steinar Bang
2020-09-24 18:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-25 16:41 ` Tassilo Horn
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From: Steinar Bang @ 2020-09-24 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>:
> But these all must have their own APIs and protocols, right? I doubt
> it will be possible to write one nnfediverse backend that could serve
> all these different services -- we'd need an nnmastodon,
> nndiaspora... etc.
Most probably, yes.
> Not to say it couldn't be done! I wonder about usability, though. The
> more a service moves away from "email-like" and towards the direction
> of "chat-like", the less appropriate Gnus will be, I think. Mastodon
> is probably fine, but I don't know how diaspora works.
Well It's similar in many ways, but postings can be longer (not limited
to the 500 characters of a "toot").
And replies are similar to comments on online newspaper articles.
They also have a concept named "aspects" that I find a little hard to
grasp.
I haven't found an equivalent to facebook groups.
(mind, my knowledge of facebook is entirely second hand. So I may not
have grasped what facebook groups are, either. I'm
#zuckervegan (ie. no facebook, instagram or snapchat))
> It would be nice to have Gnus handle pub/sub stuff, too.
Yes, it would.
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* Re: Any interest in creating an nnfediverse backend?
2020-09-24 16:56 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-24 18:00 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2020-09-24 18:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-24 18:24 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-25 2:19 ` 黃炳熙
2020-09-25 16:41 ` Tassilo Horn
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2020-09-24 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: ding
On Sep 24 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> Not to say it couldn't be done! I wonder about usability, though. The
> more a service moves away from "email-like" and towards the direction of
> "chat-like", the less appropriate Gnus will be, I think. Mastodon is
> probably fine, but I don't know how diaspora works.
Gnus can already handle twitter
<https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/09/19/you-can-read-twitter-with-gnus/>.
Andreas.
--
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* Re: Any interest in creating an nnfediverse backend?
2020-09-24 18:11 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2020-09-24 18:24 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-24 19:02 ` Steinar Bang
2020-09-25 2:19 ` 黃炳熙
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-09-24 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
> On Sep 24 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>
>> Not to say it couldn't be done! I wonder about usability, though. The
>> more a service moves away from "email-like" and towards the direction of
>> "chat-like", the less appropriate Gnus will be, I think. Mastodon is
>> probably fine, but I don't know how diaspora works.
>
> Gnus can already handle twitter
> <https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/09/19/you-can-read-twitter-with-gnus/>.
Oh, that's cool! Somehow I was not following Lars' blog, an oversight
now remedied.
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* Re: Any interest in creating an nnfediverse backend?
2020-09-24 18:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-24 18:24 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2020-09-25 2:19 ` 黃炳熙
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From: 黃炳熙 @ 2020-09-25 2:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Gnus
> Gnus can already handle twitter
> <https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/09/19/you-can-read-twitter-with-gnus/>.
Wow amazing! Thanks for information, Andreas^^^
Sincerely, Byung-Hee
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^고맙습니다 _救濟蒼生_ 감사합니다_^))//
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* Re: Any interest in creating an nnfediverse backend?
2020-09-24 16:56 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-24 18:00 ` Steinar Bang
2020-09-24 18:11 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2020-09-25 16:41 ` Tassilo Horn
2020-09-25 18:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2020-09-25 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: ding
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> But these all must have their own APIs and protocols, right? I doubt
> it will be possible to write one nnfediverse backend that could serve
> all these different services -- we'd need an nnmastodon,
> nndiaspora... etc.
No, I think they are all just implementations of the ActivityPub W3C
standard. Of course, each implementation might have a slightly
different interpretation of the standard. ;-)
Anyway, I wonder how usable such a nnfediverse backend would be. I
mean, for most parts the fediverse is like Twitter and/or Instagram,
i.e., hundreds of small "toots" a day. Usually, you just scroll through
them in chronological order until you find something interesting.
Having to first open each "toot" from the summary to see its contents in
the article buffer doesn't seem very viable.
Of course, that shouldn't stop anyone from having fun trying to do it
anyway!
Bye,
Tassilo
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* Re: Any interest in creating an nnfediverse backend?
2020-09-25 16:41 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2020-09-25 18:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2020-09-25 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> But these all must have their own APIs and protocols, right? I doubt
>> it will be possible to write one nnfediverse backend that could serve
>> all these different services -- we'd need an nnmastodon,
>> nndiaspora... etc.
>
> No, I think they are all just implementations of the ActivityPub W3C
> standard. Of course, each implementation might have a slightly
> different interpretation of the standard. ;-)
>
> Anyway, I wonder how usable such a nnfediverse backend would be. I
> mean, for most parts the fediverse is like Twitter and/or Instagram,
> i.e., hundreds of small "toots" a day. Usually, you just scroll through
> them in chronological order until you find something interesting.
> Having to first open each "toot" from the summary to see its contents in
> the article buffer doesn't seem very viable.
I agree -- I'm a little skeptical about the utility of this, on the
other hand someone recently made a nntwitter, so...
But the fact that they might all be able to share some code is actually
an incentive to do it!
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