From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87948 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: IMAP changes timestamp when moving an article to another group Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:25:19 +0200 Message-ID: <874lkh1oeo.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <867fbvja33.fsf@dod.no> <86h8whdswa.fsf@dod.no> <86shfwcnyu.fsf@dod.no> <87r2vfnbwm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <86d16ydg5v.fsf@dod.no> <87o9qchq36.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <86ingk9dek.fsf@dod.no> <87377nmxz3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523478237 19262 195.159.176.226 (11 Apr 2018 20:23:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:23:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+m36162@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Apr 11 22:23:53 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.35]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6MHY-0004sy-I6 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:23:52 +0200 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 80e92264-3dc6-11e8-a660-b499baabecb2; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f6MJB-0005wW-Eb; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:25:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f6MJ8-0005vd-Mg for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:25:30 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f6MJ7-0001jT-AO for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:25:30 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1f6MJ6-00027I-1Q for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:25:28 +0200 Original-Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6MJ3-0002Wd-Pb; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:25:27 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6MIx-0002LN-Th; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:25:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87377nmxz3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:52:00 -0700") X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "hermes.netfonds.no", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Hmm, the comments don't really say *what* brokenness the quirks were > meant to fix. I wouldn't feel confident at all in saying what the right > thing to do is. Maybe Lars will chime in... [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87948 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Hmm, the comments don't really say *what* brokenness the quirks were > meant to fix. I wouldn't feel confident at all in saying what the right > thing to do is. Maybe Lars will chime in... Uhm uhm uhm ding ding chime. I seem to vaguely recall that a version of Dovecot was completely 100% broken for MOVE, but I don't recall any further details. The person who wrote those checkin messages should get their act together; geez. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no