From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/84163 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs Cloud Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 09:45:46 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <874n4ggspx.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <877g9fxwih.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87r47ni1mu.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3deo8y0.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mwiaqzjj.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87txcimrsc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ha8impk9.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87eh3mqf4t.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <871tzmm6yz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbwyks3h.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761oxqvrp.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87ha8hf7ow.fsf@building.gnus.org> Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391438842 25001 80.91.229.3 (3 Feb 2014 14:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:47:22 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M32415@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Feb 03 15:47:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WAKo5-0001Om-21 for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:47:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1WAKmv-0001yi-I4; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:46:17 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1WAKms-0001yA-0X for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:46:14 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WAKme-0001GC-47 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:46:13 -0600 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAKmc-0008Hf-3p for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:45:58 +0100 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WAKmb-0000jr-4R for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:45:57 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:45:57 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:45:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:eT2qX2aD9uLpEcsXdSxbBVD8fY4= X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:84163 Archived-At: On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 14:53:03 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: LI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> GnuPG 1.x can be automated so it doesn't ask for the passphrase (it can >> pass through Emacs). With 2.x that's intentionally disabled and you >> have to use the daemon, which makes it impossible to supply the >> passphrase externally. See the docs for >> `epa-file-cache-passphrase-for-symmetric-encryption' which Ueno-san >> updated recently. LI> Geez. That's really unfortunate. Having Gnus Cloud ask for the LI> password every single time makes this a no go. LI> Is there no other way to do symmetric encryption from Emacs? Not to my knowledge. >> I wrote a large patch to provide ciphers and encryption in Emacs >> natively, hoping to avoid the GnuPG issues, but Stefan rejected it >> because he wants to move in the FFI direction, so he wants to avoid >> tight C bindings to GnuTLS or libnettle/libhogweed. I plan to work on >> this after the freeze so assume there will be something in the Emacs >> trunk in 2014 that will do native encryption without prompting you for a >> passphrase. LI> Perhaps we can convince Stefan to reconsider. >"? Nah, just wait. Use a stub ROT13 function for now. Ted