From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83517 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs trunk and Gnus master are fully sync'd now Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 21:33:24 +0200 Message-ID: <874nc3o7ej.fsf@randomsample.de> References: <67um8rzju4ykdj.fsf@saturn.laptop> <87a9lz1zpj.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppuv4rs1.fsf@randomsample.de> <67um8robae33lb.fsf@saturn.laptop> <877gh24094.fsf@randomsample.de> <67um8ry59hnqe3.fsf@saturn.laptop> <8738ro52qr.fsf@randomsample.de> <67um8robackn33.fsf@saturn.laptop> <87k3kz692t.fsf@randomsample.de> <67um8rzjtvtx98.fsf@saturn.laptop> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373398416 15073 80.91.229.3 (9 Jul 2013 19:33:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Katsumi Yamaoka , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 09 21:33:37 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UwdfL-0004F7-2M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 21:33:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48445 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwdfK-0005RS-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:33:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwdfH-0005RK-F3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:33:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwdfG-0003qc-BI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([83.169.19.17]:59196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwdfF-0003qL-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:33:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=T5nfoyuHiBgEWyn+LjE+IFfSuLCAGapk/5/59DY/fOw=; b=THNSJ4ankJwrDA3w8gsCPEuEoG6ARZ9VeqzeLK+lYQg9BAwVa9REteiOh4S3HWfhhRA0rz7VO7PLEiq9FlwvT0apAvn5rSFewZ00iQC87p13Ug/X5QcvUdnMUwqC5+ak; Original-Received: from dslc-082-082-166-130.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.82.166.130] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UwdfB-0004gc-AI; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 21:33:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <67um8rzjtvtx98.fsf@saturn.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:16:03 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas), Lars Ingebrigtsen , Katsumi Yamaoka , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 83.169.19.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161786 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83517 Archived-At: Giorgos Keramidas writes: > So the unexist ranges *are* there. But as you said the information > seems to be lost somewhere between the time `.newsrc.eld' loads and the > time Gnus queries the imap server for group state. Yes, and I found the problem. I could not reproduce this initially because it only exists in Emacs trunk, not in Gnus git. After I switched to Emacs trunk, I saw the same thing. It's actually really simple: The problem is `gnus-clean-old-newsrc', where 'unexist' marks will be removed when you upgrade from an older Gnus version, probably because the format has changed. However, in Emacs trunk, `gnus-newsrc-file-version' is "Gnus v5.13", which is always considered *smaller* than "Ma Gnus v0.03", so it will always remove the marks: (when (or force (< (gnus-continuum-version gnus-newsrc-file-version) (gnus-continuum-version "Ma Gnus v0.03"))) ;; Remove old `exist' marks from old nnimap groups. So this has to be changed or maybe completely removed. I'm not sure; I guess it *could* happen that someone running Ma Gnus v0.02 upgrades to Gnus from Emacs 24.4. Katsumi? Lars? Anybody? -David