From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82246 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Summary line format and gnus-face-X Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:10:47 +0200 Message-ID: <874nncwg2w.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87d3393iud.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87mx15ifog.fsf@gnus.org> <87pq612cuj.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87sjawd3ak.fsf@gnus.org> <87r4qg1qmr.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87d320783z.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346865114 4097 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2012 17:11:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 17:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30514@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Sep 05 19:11:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T9J8n-0002jm-VO for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:11:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1T9J7z-0001vD-U9; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:10:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1T9J7x-0001v0-7U for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:10:57 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T9J7s-0000Si-EE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:10:56 -0500 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9J7q-0000nl-Hz; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:10:50 +0200 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA4820B58; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:10:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=cDoAC6uDIP7Nc/mfpNIkWIDg+us=; b=tcrUubyhyoNIs5ubDmKsqB0WeDw+ 1u0EdtLlRUMfJmhp6BEYN6MG6wXrGmNNk8ueOz6nNcUBhh/OmmfptXROmhtxSbsJ 20ZwH9vbUBvg9qDkam8xIt4xjUFIWuVvc4wdXVzdEqP4Rl92tq95lKjFmrkkmF9G cY0a1w0FzGBeV8c= X-Sasl-enc: mR2sHqHOHgwg4RW3aawnlTMDAOob6GWE2yumSI1rBdaK 1346865049 Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.8.160]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C6BD88E01C3; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:10:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87d320783z.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:22:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:82246 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> That's nice for (2), but bad for (1). Now I can have >> colorized/boldified subjects with proportional fonts, but my column >> separators and stuff are also mangled which I don't want. > > The problem is really more practical than theoretical. Emacs doesn't > provide "combining" faces when using text properties. You can put > overlays over text (say, italic and then green), but you can't do that > with text properties. So Gnus has the option of either overwriting > your carefully chosen faces, or not touching them, and there isn't > much of a third choice. > > Until Emacs implements combining `face' text properties, which is > something that I really really really want to have. Overlays are > yucky. Ok, I see. It's not much of an issue for me. After some time of testing, I found out that having monospaced fonts everywhere is more readable for me anyway. :-) Bye, Tassilo