From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76929 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:16:03 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <874o81xfng.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <874o836dfv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sjvn3a4u.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87aahu8a06.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298060422 4899 80.91.229.12 (18 Feb 2011 20:20:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25266@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 18 21:20:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqWoL-0007SY-NX for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:20:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PqWoG-0006zQ-It; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:20:12 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PqWoE-0006z4-6p for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:20:10 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PqWoA-0007iD-4B for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:20:10 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PqWo9-0003Jp-Bj for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:20:05 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqWo8-0007Jw-5V for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:20:04 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:20:04 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:20:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 53 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dBFLUhDRTX1ehjgt4WFqfgOVWOw= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76929 gmane.emacs.bugs:44244 Archived-At: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:37:35 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: SM> - for the user name, the prompt says something like "[USER?]diro:143", SM> which is very cryptic. While I know why there's a "143" there, SM> there's no reason to expect users to know that (my .gnus doesn't SM> mention any port number). Worse: I really have no clue what the "USER?" SM> is about. SM> - for the password, the prompt again mentioned 143, which I also thing SM> is not warranted. SM> - then I get prompted to save the password, which is the worst of the SM> three: SM> - the prompt is *very* long (more than 80 chars). SM> - it includes the password in cleartext (WTF?). Yeah, I see now it was a mistake the way I did it. SM> - none of the extra data is really something I care about when SM> deciding whether I want to save my password in .authinfo.gpg. SM> It's just distracting from the main issue. I *very much* care what goes into that file and want to see the exact text. So find my proposal to accomodate normal and obsessive users alike below :) On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:19:58 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: LI> The prompts should simply be LI> "User name for diro:imap: " LI> and LI> "Password for diro:imap: " LI> Or something like that. Well, really, the host name should be the LI> (real) fully qualified host name, if possible, but that may not be LI> feasible. OK, I'll work on improving those prompts. >> - then I get prompted to save the password, which is the worst of the >> three: LI> Yes, it should just say "Save the password for future sessions? " and LI> not much more. How about: "Save the $HOSTNAME password for future sessions? y/n/s/?" where `s' shows the line we will add with the password replaced by ****? Ted