From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/71891 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch (was: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:04:57 +0200 Message-ID: <874odcxr52.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285527919 32762 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2010 19:05:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:05:19 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M20264@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Sep 26 21:05:18 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzwX8-0006pe-OK for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:05:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OzwX4-0001Bo-W0; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:05:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OzwX3-0001BY-AQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:05:05 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OzwWz-0007VG-3I for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:05:05 -0500 Original-Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OzwWy-0003bl-00 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:05:00 +0200 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC886BC7 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:04:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=N+HeaaaxnEY18qiBbIx7qrZ7x6E=; b=oENavh4SFoeCvn6j8oWHtXM1r4E7d1DJvT1vS89qtrL0xiXbdjtKLJFnijBYWRUn0j/0PNIWVmaDC7H4MBj12N0vZ0Hh/dHHxK/4TWi0w2QLo3UjiJvv8MHv58Xg0+ebyTw92xIfc7xisbP75Y6Sd0beF4NpWntcy2TNJeBsYpU= X-Sasl-enc: YY472zs+kepWuop/M41/hUKbJmPaSoY56HPeK0KA98UJ 1285527899 Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (p54AF0DEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.175.13.239]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F116E40282C for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:04:58 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:58:06 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:71891 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: Hi Lars! > I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix > stuff. Is there anything in particular that I should handle first? > Any pet peeves? Here's another thing that has bugged me for years. I hit `g' in *Group* and nntp+Gmane:gmane.emacs.orgmode has 2 new articles (Gmane is an agentized server). I hit RET on it, and Gnus starts loading 3 MB before I hit `C-g' after ~10 seconds. That's in *nntp-log* then: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 20100926T205029.472 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.orgmode 20100926T205029.764 news.gmane.org XOVER 1-30997 20100926T205033.991 news.gmane.org QUIT --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Then I hit `J s', and the agent fetches the new articles of all groups (lets say ~100) in only a few seconds. Thereafter, RET on that group is fast. With `J s', the relevant lines in *nntp-log* are: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 20100926T205927.964 news.gmane.org MODE READER 20100926T205928.153 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.orgmode 20100926T205928.248 news.gmane.org XOVER 30996-30997 20100926T205928.846 news.gmane.org ARTICLE 30996 20100926T205928.846 news.gmane.org ARTICLE 30997 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- So why does Gnus issue an XOVER for all articles when I hit RET on a group with 2 new articles without letting the agent fetch first? Bye, Tassilo