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From: Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: That newfangled IMAP thing...
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:38:40 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874odv4ar3.fsf@rimspace.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3aanonqnv.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> Next I'll do group entry and article selection, and then it's time to
>> implement the new group info function that will return real ranges of
>> unread/read/unseen articles directly to Gnus without going via the *nntpd*
>> buffer.  It might be called...  er...  `nnimap-request-group-data'?
>
> Eurhm.  I'm reading the RFC, and I'm wondering whether I'm seriously
> missing something.
>
> Is the client supposed to do a
>
> EXAMINE foo
> FETCH 1:* (FLAGS)
>
> on each single mailbox to get all the article data?

Kind-of.  Plain-jane IMAP is really bare about these things; what you want to
do is query capabilities from the server at startup, then select the
appropriate mechanisms for action from that.

For example, the EXPUNGE after sync discussed elsewhere probably means you
want to demand (unconditionally, because nothing doesn't implement) UIDPLUS
from the server.

That adds a bunch of UID versions of commands that otherwise need to reflect
the id in the current fetch, making life *much* faster for you.


Anyway, to sync flags you want this:

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5162#section-5

That would be the official upstream documentation about the QRESYNC variant of
the "flag sync" process, and includes how to handle less capable servers.
Given that "less capable" means "most" — since only Zimbra has QRESYNC that
I deal with regularly...


Anyway, CONDSTORE capability is pretty routine, and most things will have
that; I would suggest you stash away a pointer to the right routine somewhere
in the server thing every login, after doing a capabilities query.

> If you have a million emails on the server (and who hasn't?), that'll like
> take forever.  Fer sure.

Yah.  CONDSTORE makes it much faster.
        Daniel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-12  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 219+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-05  1:04 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05  1:12 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 11:20   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 11:44     ` Sebastian Krause
2010-09-05 12:00     ` Frank Schmitt
2010-09-05 13:16     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 19:58     ` James Cloos
2010-09-06  7:17     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-07 14:15     ` Wes Hardaker
2010-09-07 14:52       ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 17:56         ` Wes Hardaker
2010-12-05 12:33         ` Matthias Andree
2010-09-05  1:56 ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-05  2:17 ` Tibor Simko
2010-09-05  2:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05  7:18   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 11:00     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 13:31       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 11:23   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:22     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 13:25       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:43         ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 17:26     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 17:30       ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-06  9:05         ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-06 15:02           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 15:28             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-09 14:54               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-09 14:58                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-09 15:07                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05 17:30       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 10:55 ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 13:28   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:07     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-05 17:10       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:30         ` Memnon Anon
2010-09-06  7:41           ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-27 23:16     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-29 14:43       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-29 19:19         ` Bjørn Mork
2010-12-02 12:03           ` [PATCH] nnimap.el (nnimap-process-expiry-targets): avoid downloading articles unless necessary Bjørn Mork
2010-12-02 12:17             ` expiry taking "forever" in both cpu time and real time when the IMAP UID is high Bjørn Mork
2010-12-02 12:59               ` Daniel Pittman
2010-12-02 13:28                 ` Bjørn Mork
2010-12-05 12:21                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-11-06 22:24                     ` slow nnimap expiry (dubious patch) John Magorrian
2012-01-03 22:53                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-13  8:56                         ` Bjørn Mork
2012-02-13 19:27                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-02-13 20:48                             ` Bjørn Mork
2012-02-26 14:27                         ` Dave Abrahams
2012-03-10  0:51                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-03-10 18:16                             ` Dave Abrahams
2012-03-10 19:57                               ` John Magorrian
2010-12-05 12:16             ` [PATCH] nnimap.el (nnimap-process-expiry-targets): avoid downloading articles unless necessary Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 12:43 ` That newfangled IMAP thing Greg Troxel
2010-09-05 12:56   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:16     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:38       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:40         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:46           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:12             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:43               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:49                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 16:59                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:00                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 17:47                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 17:49                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-06 12:50                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-09 12:55                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-09 13:55                       ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-09 13:59                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-09 14:26                         ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-09 17:14                         ` Sebastian Krause
2010-09-10 23:33                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-10 23:53                             ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2010-09-11  0:02                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11  0:16                                 ` Greg Troxel
2010-09-11  0:31                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11  3:42                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-11 11:07                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-11 11:47                                         ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-11 15:44                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11 17:20                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-11 17:30                                               ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-11 17:31                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12  8:38                                               ` Daniel Pittman [this message]
2010-09-12  9:24                                                 ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-12  9:53                                                   ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-12 11:12                                                   ` Richard Riley
2010-09-12 13:15                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 15:12                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 15:40                                                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-12 16:03                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 16:56                                                         ` Frank Schmitt
2010-09-12 17:03                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 17:26                                                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-12 17:29                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 19:47                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12 20:19                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  4:28                                                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-12 17:24                                                         ` Richard Riley
2010-09-13 10:54                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-13  4:26                                                   ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-13  9:28                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  9:49                                                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-13  9:57                                                         ` David Edmondson
2010-09-13 10:20                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  9:58                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 10:07                                                           ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-13 10:24                                                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-13 11:06                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 11:54                                                                 ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-13 12:20                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-11 20:52                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12  2:17                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-12  8:32                                                 ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-12 13:08                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13  4:24                                                     ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-13 10:51                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-13 11:09                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 12:24                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-13 12:58                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 14:22                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 20:36                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 21:43                                                             ` Knut Anders Hatlen
2010-09-13 21:55                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 22:12                                                                 ` Knut Anders Hatlen
2010-09-13 22:14                                                                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-13 22:54                                                                 ` Dan Christensen
2010-09-14  7:19                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 15:10                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 15:18                                                                     ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 15:29                                                                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 15:30                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 15:44                                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 16:21                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 18:51                                                                           ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:01                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:23                                                                               ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:26                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:47                                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:57                                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 20:07                                                                                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:19                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 19:24                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:35                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 19:40                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:40                                                                               ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 19:43                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:46                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-15  8:37                                                                                   ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 19:26                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 19:28                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 19:44                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-15 10:24                                                                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-14 19:35                                                                           ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-14 19:44                                                                           ` Dan Christensen
2010-09-14 19:50                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 20:07                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 20:23                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 20:49                                                                                   ` Frank Schmitt
2010-09-15  6:05                                                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-15  7:33                                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-13 23:56                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14  0:10                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14  0:35                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-14 10:58                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-12  2:18                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-12  2:32                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 15:23                   ` Dan Christensen
2010-09-06 20:14                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 21:01                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-06 21:05                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 21:27                           ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-06 21:29                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 21:39                               ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-07  0:57                         ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-07  1:41                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-07  2:49                             ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-07  6:14                               ` Gijs Hillenius
2010-09-07  7:17                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-07 14:57                       ` Bjørn Mork
2010-09-07 17:59                       ` James Cloos
2010-09-07 18:16                         ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08  8:34                           ` Vegard Vesterheim
2010-09-08  9:06                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 10:00                               ` Vegard Vesterheim
2010-09-08 10:07                                 ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-08 12:06                                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 12:18                                     ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-08 14:29                                     ` Vegard Vesterheim
2010-09-08 14:43                                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 11:50                                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-08 21:26                                   ` Wes Hardaker
2010-09-05 15:02               ` Mark Plaksin
2010-09-05 16:01               ` David Engster
2010-09-05 16:06                 ` David Engster
2010-09-05 16:15                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 18:15                   ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 18:21                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 19:46                       ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 19:58                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 12:57                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-06 13:01                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 13:12                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05 20:04                       ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-05 20:10                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 14:44             ` Tom Rauchenwald
2010-09-06  3:51         ` Daniel Pittman
2010-09-06  8:45         ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-06 13:39           ` Romain Francoise
2010-09-06 14:23             ` Julien Danjou
2010-09-06 21:01               ` Daniel Dehennin
2010-09-06 21:04                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-06 16:26             ` Gijs Hillenius
2010-09-06 16:40               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-05 13:27     ` Steinar Bang
2010-09-05 17:25     ` Frank Schmitt

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