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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Reiner Steib <Reiner.Steib@gmx.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:05:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874ot4w13w.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8763dktv1l.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>

Reiner Steib writes:
 > On Wed, Jul 22 2009, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 > 
 > > Reiner Steib writes:
 > >
 > >  > Obviously the key bindings cannot be resolved without a change for
 > >  > either mail-mode or message-mode users.  Maybe set the bindings
 > >  > depending on some compatibility variable?
 > >
 > > How about the presence of Newsgroups?
 > 
 > >  > >  . In mail-mode C-c C-f C-f moves to FCC; in message-mode C-c C-f C-f
 > >  > >    moves to Followup-To, and C-c C-f C-w moves to FCC.
 > >
 > > Followup-To is rarely useful in a mail message.
 > 
 > A message-mode buffer can be news, mail or both.

Indeed.  That's why I mention "Newsgroups" above.  I'm conditioning
all my suggestions on "compatibility with the mail-only MUA that has
been default until now".  Ie, they apply only when it's *not* a news
post.  (As far as Emacs can tell so far: of course that can change if
the user desires.)

Of course this is a hack.  I think it's a shame that Gnus chose to
cater to 1-keystroke savings rather than keep a regular, mnemonic
keymap for default, but any attempt to change the Gnus keymap now will
of course meet a response greatly resembling in all ways the response
of mail-mode advocates to suggestions of change.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-23  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-07-19 11:41           ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 12:32             ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Sven Joachim
2009-07-19 17:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 18:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-22  7:35             ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-22 18:46               ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Reiner Steib
2009-07-23  3:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2009-07-23  5:03                   ` Miles Bader
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2009-07-19 11:56                 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode - sending mail (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib
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     [not found]             ` <87k525mfo7.fsf@catnip.gol.com>
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2009-07-20 20:42                 ` message-mode is now default? Reiner Steib

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