From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67306 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daiki Ueno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Group, Summary buffers: End of line contain whitespaces Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:31:24 +0900 Message-ID: <874p53kfcj.fsf@broken.deisui.org> References: <87abfkmuko.fsf@jondo.cante.net> <86bpzlt5cq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87prnut63f.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86vdxlfdtn.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220023936 29769 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 15:32:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15757@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Aug 29 17:33:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZ5y3-0005Eo-9A for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:32:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ5ws-00020E-4J; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ5wq-0001zv-Ra for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:31:40 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ5wm-0007un-JD for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:31:40 -0500 Original-Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.44.30]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KZ5wo-000847-00 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:31:38 +0200 Original-Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so455034yxb.77 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :sender; bh=Kj6GgDF7XDqzPYZDu64t6RY0momvIGPABxgeQ6xI3Fo=; b=S9+pw20CVVsV9EokkSiMRw0RNx4DiIeZmD9yb5HVs01alc69fiWYKu9ylKp+QUrERf 8iq/Cdn7/aqHOko1Q/BwYX031qs82wHdMWVlCxGZP8RfDRyFYe3zxoUrQsX1PH2D6U/x O/05LfC53Sgtd0ZPXo+WPgEFEg31DSE7aGhEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=gnwR83KFtuamDIDi4rlNzE5V4BRpnjnPZU4G7QVdufCQUCEPox/u4IireWs96CNIr2 z5CK0QItKsn6b0zPI6od4v0r6eq4CXByR3exaB0yqKm2JTQp8CKWHfBD1eA39u7Dtr0m g77DGGIhbJaKcO9NeTeD6+n8dLzwxRapk1AF0= Original-Received: by 10.142.214.5 with SMTP id m5mr1000564wfg.257.1220023893714; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from broken ( [202.83.187.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm4680309wff.18.2008.08.29.08.31.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86vdxlfdtn.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:51:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67306 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:01:56 +0900 Miles Bader wrote: > > MB> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> I think this is the right solution. No one has explained why we need >>> the trailing spaces AFAIK. > > MB> I don't think anyone has claimed they're _needed_. It's more than they > MB> aren't particularly harmful, and going to great lengths to avoid them is > MB> silly. > > I don't think it's silly: we're producing unneeded data for no clear > purpose, and there's no harm in removing it. If so, it should be > removed. I can do it unless someone explains why I shouldn't. I also think that it's silly. After the patch applied, (gnus-parse-format "%A" '((?A "ABCDE " ?s))) => (concat "ABCDE ") (gnus-parse-format "%A" '((?A "ABCDE " ?s)) t) => "ABCDE" Future Gnus developers will be troubled with the difference of the results. Also, this change makes gnus-parse-simple-format specific for rendering *Group* and *Summary* lines. That's a layer breakage. I think Katsumi's first approach is even better. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno