From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65707 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: message-confirm-send Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:37:21 +0900 Message-ID: <874pfl1tsu.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87y7czs16b.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87bq9vazy8.fsf@jidanni.org> <87zlxfhztn.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <87k5oj5ae9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87sl37f3cj.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195267127 25243 80.91.229.12 (17 Nov 2007 02:38:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Russ Allbery Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14203@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Nov 17 03:38:52 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ItDa7-0001CH-D4 for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:38:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItDYv-0003a1-0N; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:37:37 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItDYs-0003Zj-5u for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:37:34 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ItDYm-0005Uv-7p for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:37:34 -0600 Original-Received: from smtp02.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.72]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ItDYh-0001y8-00 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:37:24 +0100 Original-Received: from 203-216-100-114.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.100.114] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1ItDYh-00005g-8k; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:37:23 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05B292FF6; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:37:21 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <87sl37f3cj.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> (Russ Allbery's message of "Thu\, 15 Nov 2007 16\:20\:28 -0800") Original-Lines: 23 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65707 Archived-At: Russ Allbery writes: >> I suppose it's all a bit too much effort (needs MTA cooperation etc) for >> the gain though. [and would probably cause tons of complaints about >> your "slow" mail system...] > > Gnus could probably implement something like this internally, though, > using a concept similar to the drafts group. The problem would seem to be reliability -- once they've hit send, people really, _really_, don't want email to be lost or even delayed for longer than expected (e.g. a "undoable delay" of 5 minutes might be acceptable, but 2 days almost certainly isn't). MTAs in general have put huge amounts of effort into making mail queuing fairly reliable, but I think any Gnus specific solution is bound to be less so (and it's probably a lot of work to make it reliable). -Miles -- "Don't just question authority, Don't forget to question me." -- Jello Biafra