From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39978
Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail
From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general
Subject: Re: Using iso-8859-15 with Emacs21 & Gnus
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 01:56:36 +0100
Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu
Message-ID: <874robfj5n.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
References: <lgd.87n12c21nc.fsf@mde1.zonix.de>
 <877ktg7l35.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
	<lgd.87y9lvucv9.fsf@mde1.zonix.de> <87bsim7mw5.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
	<2n1yjio8ug.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> <87u1wexktw.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
	<2n7ktaul0k.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> <87wv19vuba.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
	<2nhescyf4t.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu> <87g07wnnrv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
	<2nofmjvrb7.fsf@zsh.cs.rochester.edu>
	<vafhesbke0d.fsf@INBOX.auto.gnus.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
	<m34robvhbn.fsf@barnowl.demon.co.uk> <87snbvha4f.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
	<rj7kt7bnv9.fsf@ssv2.dina.kvl.dk> <877kt7h60j.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
	<yl668rbj6v.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175601 30808 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:46:41 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:46:41 +0000 (UTC)
Return-Path: <owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu>
Original-Received: (qmail 6624 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 10:16:04 -0000
Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13)
  by mastaler.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 10:16:04 -0000
Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists)
	by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1)
	id 160KJC-0007hk-00; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 04:15:18 -0600
Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 04 Nov 2001 04:14:57 -0600 (CST)
Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66])
	by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA06932
	for <ding@hpc.uh.edu>; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 04:14:42 -0600 (CST)
Original-Received: (qmail 6600 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2001 10:14:44 -0000
Original-Received: (qmail 6595 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 10:14:43 -0000
Original-Received: from mail.s.netic.de (HELO mail.netic.de) (212.9.160.11)
  by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 10:14:43 -0000
Original-Received: by mail.netic.de (Smail3.2.0.111/mail.s.netic.de)
	via LF.net GmbH Internet Services
	via remoteip 212.9.163.115
	via remotehost mail.enyo.de with esmtp
	for mail.gnus.org
	id m160KIZ-001X4HC; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:14:39 +0100 (CET)
Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (helo=deneb.enyo.de ident=exim)
	by mail.enyo.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1)
	id 160BDt-0007VS-00
	for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 01:33:13 +0100
Original-Received: from fw by deneb.enyo.de with local (Exim 3.12 #1)
	id 160BaW-0001FS-00
	for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 01:56:36 +0100
Original-To: ding@gnus.org
In-Reply-To: <yl668rbj6v.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> (Russ Allbery's message
 of "03 Nov 2001 14:09:28 -0800")
Original-Lines: 14
User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
Precedence: list
X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7
Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39978
X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39978

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

> Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:
>
>> For the headers, I agree, but for the body, no.  There's no such default
>> in the current draft.
>
> It's inherited from MIME.

How do you know? ;-)

The draft encourages implementations to recognize UTF-8 even though it
is not declared (and fails to mention the already existing practice of
hierarchy-specific default charsets).