From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30549 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2023 20:19:54 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Feb 2023 20:19:54 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOFq-00CL9d-RG for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:19:50 -0600 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOFq-000NXZ-1k for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:19:50 -0600 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOFm-000NXQ-24 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:19:46 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOFj-008vmU-O6 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:19:46 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Reply-To:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XVcgWf9vh7HeGe8bCGcZoy34ns/30MCNe9GLfEYIPlg=; b=js3fYxDi+tzbagNlKuc/uu2xzp RLtBQ6qYuwNFvIhK6t3LK++eN9P+JS2Wza26MHn3GhKhNYSDbKhRh8iivAiOltuafKIZiJXFcBjuU kn8+oSkKmjTwlZS4MwhrcMwC70g2LQsiUANE1CRSJ5e1w9JpvzLmCkm/kSXFk+alt0aQ=; Received: from forward502c.mail.yandex.net ([178.154.239.210]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOFb-0004Gf-1l for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 21:19:37 +0100 Received: from iva7-711d0b0d05cd.qloud-c.yandex.net (iva7-711d0b0d05cd.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0c:2e88:0:640:711d:b0d]) by forward502c.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C31D95F4BE; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:19:33 +0300 (MSK) Received: by iva7-711d0b0d05cd.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id VJr8JV3YkW21-imc0GFvc; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:19:33 +0300 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1676492373; bh=XVcgWf9vh7HeGe8bCGcZoy34ns/30MCNe9GLfEYIPlg=; h=Message-ID:References:Date:Reply-To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; b=tPUxVbO0isT4EHdTnltvLSexeGeINHa/ANEsSeR0y/zGaRndsqHYmBNnRGzLef+tB tc/lM8hNVedJaENwSoWUN1ugpCrx+6NZMME50SN2qKg1RjGK6Eyu0BaistE8zz42JK 4FjdpL5eWqYvQvzNdh0t8MGICFgh/5nY/5ZmigPU= Authentication-Results: iva7-711d0b0d05cd.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com From: Colin Baxter To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Groups will not stay in topic In-Reply-To: <877cwlfik1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 13 Feb 2023 11:53:50 -0800") References: <877cwosfbx.fsf@yandex.com> <877cwlfik1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Reply-To: m43cap@yandex.com Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 20:19:31 +0000 Message-ID: <875yc24r70.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk >>>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: > On 02/14/23 11:06 AM, Colin Baxter wrote: >> I have discovered that if I look at the Information (GE) for >> the groups that wont stay in a topic they all begin >> "nntp+feedbase ..." The well behaved groups don't. And if I >> move nntp news groups to their own topic they have still jumped >> out after a new session. >> >> I don't understand why the nntp group are different. > Is the nntp server set as your `gnus-select-method'? Whichever > server is in there has "unprefixed" group names: everything else > gets eg nnimap+MyServer:INBOX, but the groups on your primary > select method don't start with "nntp+feedbase". If that's the > case, then my guess is that there's some inconsistency somewhere > between prefixed and unprefixed names: probably you are moving > prefixed names into the topic, but the next time you start Gnus > it is using the unprefixed names, so thinks they don't belong to > that topic. That looks to be what's happening. The "gnus-secondary-select-methods" indeed pull in only the nntp+feedbase groups. Thanks to you, at least I now know the cause of the issue. Thank you very much. Best wishes, Colin Baxter.