From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15412 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2023 15:33:09 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jan 2023 15:33:09 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJcLC-00EL7z-Kq for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:33:06 -0600 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1pJcLC-005ilc-15 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:33:06 -0600 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1pJcL7-005ilT-0q for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:33:01 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJcL2-00Bk9a-5A for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:33:00 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=TVYtlI++IceWqUp5+hDJr8zpHYCheFkDoawSYeC1TQc=; b=NLTzLx1y6bqi4xl6+OGPRAl6bP bTcmWs1KKjMyf6jRCEoQVGwhl87UMcj82ScvVR+W8k3I1H3bS/fFkhWtvpOXkG3zAryaNMKmiA5jN tgozUkiAzJVmXh71Tc5WiEuQLH1E9EjuFz7wUZS4ucHRbwFoe64pG6vzvOKe4c62/2x8=; Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pJcKs-0003x0-1y for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:32:49 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1674401564; bh=TVYtlI++IceWqUp5+hDJr8zpHYCheFkDoawSYeC1TQc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=lrHNWNnp5Fzj7wZqIw/alat5gum+3m8P8OF5tANc3kPzTNmLFDoODBwwj+Lva2Lu6 l2y+WwcXjCXo2BzvXKXs2reoshfQXsKPNHmgzXss1/WoYk2l61PmNwiQa2mvr+CChH HJKn0qXJF6U/hReCNYPLwAT4Sv9r/DwxIic3FJUEDIMaQROEY3qkboe7p/9+vKdNcE pK/7Y2mbR+gdCw/rVacypmilck4eaO6Uw6TxKcsnbw4Mzq0tbvj0JOroxMDptIQBk/ TNwLElg6hhF/Ic+7qfmHCrQlsdCyyrR7DwM1hSBB8vbWj+7NmCnmjIXsCZbRuwcnC4 Hvm+cKa82OWUg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from bitburger ([93.230.140.214]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MCKFk-1pT00H3rUY-009PxE for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:32:43 +0100 From: Felix Natter To: ding@gnus.org Subject: Mails not sent / not not appear in nnfolder+sent Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:32:43 +0100 Message-ID: <875ycyshyc.fsf@bitburger.home.felix> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:OGbPFfBYeYAzRMZSjKKSVYHyOkjUXm9zS3FHVzjWrmscGjiSpp5 xSuqa0fdQMSsMYuiaUHjp8ep6CkNr9G4kx/7492o4gPXap8t7xM4B1cnY/djGjv3GHwcyF7 U77QhlxYh6LymG0mmWKs46POZEDHZlQV96sNfNDvrXX3DtTE/5e/SDp8y9ri6qCWmi8gI+Y APmQ3txrxIM3Vw3XFQP+g== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:uxXVUnapt/8=;8N42ywhZBQOedJYiFFSLqkryd9z GdBiqLIWDUwH3uI9KhTM6yqRoau49RI22uQs7T032FeX3eHq2aTG5xSSFUz1TUIX/dz0j8Afr 6i6jE5NWBCW+9MCXBMk9nCs12Tk1uqvbm9YEXLFaONSC4ZSjM7JhzmXte8N3F9RvPzJVQj60G fcJlU2viIgeyyKD1ZawoR/HY6h/EqUMIPAMdEhQUpOb7e2kKOvHZrdZvWrdf4QlagOJ44MORh AT5qW9gxcAy/kjrseRBOjCJfGjugmCsYXLlstDRsCAtAUoBw+rdcCAc04R6VQWdFL/lmrtrdg nCDb+ENFM/ZH5JMtwyq8rgclg/pFvUK50fglv/aDaKAyPsRYMIWXAc+7aLyCzBnRc1NUtm7eU NgYqezgq9MjDQxXqY+xuKsa/VMvjbs+46HCaj3LXw5ISLup5IBW1Ejr3Qjt/Fxgnmhb2KUmFX 8RrwpBR9fl3Z8Cc4C8OcZbCBCxPhZeouvj5tdr4JI3aGE2lA/WrizEO3S3svZoEOc9T3j9aQa wadWBJUkAmLH5NcJvZes5DsE6fi6Zs7ASIKeYdG8s8SPq+qdBmvHrgYYS8RT3BdKWPIcZOFa/ bZ6paXg2LWCW+5VBZVVGGoMBiyeWpvHDXxLw7mBTJRRqKgk4KC5WOu1gN2aegpg2oKKKoHh9O yglOSy4r6EMvfV2EYdvQAagu67OrleMOLf1Cy1VBjhFFYFcHGkDmJsUAF9BwWqLTYaBUMrKvV ZPi62KDWkYzKxmFKZRSieNBV1VCy0Hh/vrhPnZVNzxXBTIiqS00Uw31z3x6JR8ixIaN4H/qye f/8LCzYMaJp3uuDwdeRqpjYwXsYBYHVRlMgA3f4h3wzAC+V9dX95ikFm6LMaoHdQjP5c3VjSt MuqnQWyb258HVX4GpLc6j3puk39tb5Gty/1IsEbl+4DJBHQX6Sv7HcULO+3dylAt75/7IAIGU L8Gv1G6gmDbIKAyqP6C6OmLMNdY= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: Precedence: bulk hello Gnus experts, I am using Gnus v5.13 / GNU Emacs 27.1 and for quite some time, occasionally, some mails are not actually sent _and/or_ do not appear in t= he sent-mails backend (nnfolder+sent:sent-mail.-). That is, *maybe* they are sent, but do not end up in sent-mail-**. I'm not sure I matched this correctly, but it seems this is a problematic case in *Messages*: Sending email 250 Requested mail action okay, completed: id=3D1N1OXT-1oZnjj2sXb-012t77 Sending email done 221 gmx.net Service closing transmission channel Sending...done Deleting article /home/felix/News/drafts/drafts/190 in drafts... Saving file /home/felix/.newsrc... ... and this is a normal case: Sending email 250 Requested mail action okay, completed: id=3D1MQ5vW-1p6KQW3o2a-00M3AZ Sending email done 221 gmx.net Service closing transmission channel Saving file /home/felix/Mail/sent/sent-mail/2023-01... Wrote /home/felix/Mail/sent/sent-mail/2023-01 Sending...done Deleting article /home/felix/News/drafts/drafts/191 in drafts... Saving file /home/felix/.newsrc... How can I debug this / add additional logging? Is there a chance that this is fixed in a newer emacs? How can I be sure that the mail is actually sent when this occurs? Many Thanks and Best Regards, Felix =2D- Felix Natter