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[141.239.244.209]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i187sm12251474pfc.112.2020.04.07.18.53.31 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Apr 2020 18:53:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Newell To: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: gmail setup Organization: Avi Gobbler Publishing References: <87blo7tj5l.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87zhbr47z3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ftdjrsdm.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tv1y6pfh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <875zedoo19.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87ftdhx29r.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87k12tipzw.fsf@dick> <87tv1wvrv0.fsf_-_@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87pncjgsdd.fsf@dick> <87pncjur27.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87lfn7gnvq.fsf@dick> <87imibuotl.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 15:53:30 -1000 In-Reply-To: <87imibuotl.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> (Alberto Luaces's message of "Tue, 07 Apr 2020 20:35:02 +0200") Message-ID: <875zea7nfp.fsf@emailmessageidheader.nil> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Aloha, There's a point to be made here, which I've mentioned at other times, and with which not everyone agrees. (I would not expect or even want that--- diversity of thought is a great thing.) Gnus is in fact complex. There are ways to get started with gnus that are less complex but I wouldn't say any of them are simple. And as you try to do more and more things, the complexity is unavoidable. But then, if the complexity puts you off, there are indeed other viable Emacs-based options like mu4e and others, and that's as it should be. Gnus provides tradeoffs. The serious learning curve and the need to code or adapt some elisp to make things do exactly what you want are rewarded by--- a mail client that does exactly what you want. The road is long, grasshopper, but the rewards at the end can be great. And it's worth repeating: this is not some sort of elitist manifesto. I believe anyone capable of using Emacs is capable of using gnus. The decision lies in whether you think it's worth the effort, considering what your email needs and wants might or might not be. For me, gnus has become an essential tool. For you--- well, that's up to you to decide! -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i - Via Gnus/BBDB/Org/Emacs/Linux