From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88263 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Adam_Sj=C3=B8gren?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nntp servers with multibyte group names? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:02:22 +0100 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <875zwi5j4x.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> References: <87tvk270sn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87in0i5l6h.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87ftvm6zmn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87efb65kf6.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <871s766y2z.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543352456 27612 195.159.176.226 (27 Nov 2018 21:00:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 21:00:56 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36473@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 27 22:00:52 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkTT-00074d-5N for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:00:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkVK-00087O-KT; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:02:46 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkVC-00084M-Ag for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:02:38 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkVA-0004yi-Qo for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:02:38 -0600 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkV9-0006wY-JS for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:02:35 +0100 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkSv-0006F9-Kh for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:00:17 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc Mail-Follow-Up-To: never X-Now-Playing: The Beach, Power, Corruption & Lies (bonus) (New Order) X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88263 Archived-At: Eric writes: >> I was curious to find the answer, as I apparently have a hobby of >> implementing an nntp-interface on average every half a decade :-) > > Sounds like... fun. But it also sounds like you might be able to answer > some of my questions! It is (I like using nntp for e.g. RSS/Atom feeds, and the nntp-model fits a suprising number of things)! But I have just been either ignoring the problem or assuming that everything is utf-8. >> Why not assume utf-8 (of which ascii is a subset, I believe)? > > I am miserable at encoding-related programming, it's something I've > never really had to deal with, and I don't grok it. I don't understand encoding it works in Emacs at all, so I will have to defer to someone/where who does. Having an ø in my last name used to be a challenge. These days things are converging on "utf-8 or broken" as far as I can tell. > Thanks for any light you're willing to shed! Sorry I can't be of any help... Best regards, Adam -- "Though this doesn't mean changing my sense of Adam Sjøgren beauty. I.e., I don't like it." asjo@koldfront.dk