From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83138 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nntp server news.gmane.org tries to use gnutls Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 01:20:40 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <8761yugywn.fsf@dod.no> References: <87li7q22th.fsf@randomsample.de> <87ehdih3ta.fsf@dod.no> <87a9o6h3g7.fsf_-_@dod.no> <87y5bq319r.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367968946 27764 80.91.229.3 (7 May 2013 23:22:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 23:22:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31404@lists.math.uh.edu Wed May 08 01:22:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZrDF-0006zS-6a for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 01:22:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UZrBp-00029Y-P1; Tue, 07 May 2013 18:20:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UZrBn-00029K-VJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 May 2013 18:20:55 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UZrBj-00087F-Hs for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 07 May 2013 18:20:55 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UZrBi-0006B2-6W for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 01:20:50 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZrBh-0005es-Hd for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 01:20:49 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.246.141.getinternet.no ([84.208.246.141]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 May 2013 01:20:49 +0200 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.246.141.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 May 2013 01:20:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.246.141.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Hq72H2pE9v8LkcnHjRCZd/f7RJY= X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83138 Archived-At: >>>>> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren): > Steinar Bang writes: > I seem to remember newer Gnusae try to use STARTTLS if the server > supports it. Hm... is that a feature or a bug...? > $ telnet news.eclipse.org nntp > [...] > 200 news.eclipse.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.2 ready (posting ok). > STARTTLS > 500 What? > vs. > $ telnet news.gmane.org nntp > [...] > 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) > STARTTLS > 382 Begin TLS negotiation now Indeed. Is there a way to switch it off? Alternatively: how can I make it work? Install the cert for news.gmane.org in a place where gnutls will find it, same as I did with the cacert CA? (BTW it would be nice if the gmane.org certs were signed by cacert instead of being self-signed) -- "Som graset står eg ventande på ein ljå"