From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80819 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Problem with gnus-parameters Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:08:29 +0100 Message-ID: <8762gorl36.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <878vn0c9as.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <878vmziasx.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> <877h17udki.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> <87ty4ajwp2.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ehvcqxel.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <8762goqwa5.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871urcqu6u.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325923771 2985 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 08:09:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 08:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29101@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Jan 07 09:09:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjRLC-0005RD-3G for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:09:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RjRKU-00045o-HX; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:08:42 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RjRKS-00045a-AA for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:08:40 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RjRKN-0001Kq-RQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:08:39 -0600 Original-Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjRKM-0004pP-6n for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:08:34 +0100 Original-Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8AA222E7 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:08:32 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 07 Jan 2012 03:08:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=mDrrmHxtGX5HAvqKzN3eO7fu40Q=; b=UTbh6TzCZWSJaUH5yhR2u2Pp0VLZ S19MqcEdQOUCcDC44n5N2CTCeu4KDFXxX2bQS6iM48XY6LpMEYKKeYPMbUpi5cHM RW/OXusgcmInf76P7wqdfciaIt7F8P60PcXThJzm6udVnqgrvW5/9WZHRr0YMxHv utLUycOkjd32MPM= X-Sasl-enc: nEC04KTY0uZ08HiTnGKfw5B244pxHclAtfue3V4csMs+ 1325923711 Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (91-67-11-43-dynip.superkabel.de [91.67.11.43]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 347BD4824D2; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:08:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:36:34 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80819 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> '(("gmane" (foo "lala") (bar "zot") (gcc-self . t)) >> ("emacs" (foo "emacs") )) > > [...] > >> To me, that inconsistency between group local variables and group >> parameters is far from obvious. I'd prefer, if in gmane.emacs gcc-self >> was active, too, i.e., I'd expect these effects: >> >> gmane.foo: foo=lala, bar=zot, gcc-self >> gmane.emacs: foo=emacs, bar=zot, gcc-self > > Yes, this is clearly a bug, I think: It was that way as long as I can think of. I brought that issue up somewhere in 2008 I think, but didn't get responses. > (if symbol > (gnus-group-fast-parameter group symbol allow-list) > (nconc > (copy-sequence > (funcall gnus-group-get-parameter-function group)) > (gnus-parameters-get-parameter group))))) > > So the "fast" version applies the precedence in a different way than > the non-fast version does. > > I've now fixed the -fast- function to do what it's supposed to. Give > it a whirl and see whether I've ironed out all the kinks... It seems to work fine now. Thanks a lot! Bye, Tassilo