From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78608 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: hobbes@poukram.net (=?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9mi?= Letot) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus hangs at startup when trying to read imap groups Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:43:31 +0200 Message-ID: <8762pvre98.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> References: <877hb4pk2l.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> <87d3kri4to.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> <878vvfi4mp.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> <87sjtn8a6b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o63i2bo.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> <87zknvgnew.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> <87r597gn8k.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> <87tye16hkk.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> <87pqop5iiw.fsf@sphax.lybrafox.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304174721 2522 80.91.229.12 (30 Apr 2011 14:45:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:45:21 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26910@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Apr 30 16:45:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGBQ3-00087J-2l for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:45:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QGBOf-0004eC-Od; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:43:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QGBOd-0004e4-6W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:43:47 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QGBOb-0008LC-8Y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:43:46 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QGBOZ-0007Ib-82 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:43:43 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGBOZ-0007Kd-2l for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:43:43 +0200 Original-Received: from 91.180.36.26 ([91.180.36.26]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:43:43 +0200 Original-Received: from hobbes by 91.180.36.26 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:43:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 91.180.36.26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kL++Pk6XqMKKzkIhLk4+VAUIypk= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78608 Archived-At: hobbes@poukram.net (Rémi Letot) writes: > Steinar Bang writes: >> Have you tried sniffing the same connection with wireshark, or a >> different package sniffing tool, to see what actually goes on the wire? > > The connection is TLS encrypted, so I don't think it's possible to sniff > it. And turning off the encryption to see if it works better is not > something that I am willing to do. > > I think that it's possible to tunnel the actual network connection > inside ssh, and execute imapd on the server like any shell process. I'll > read the docs and see if I can try this. But reading docs means some > time needs to be found :-) ok, sorry for the delay, I'm not familiar with this stuff. I just made an ssh tunnel to forward localhost:143 to server:143, and through this gnus starts and works fine. gnus tries all tls/ssl methods, which don't work, and then opens an unencrypted connection, which works fine. It starts fine, lists my subscribed nnimap groups, and I have no trouble to enter and read them. So I guess the problem is tls/ssl specific, but I have no idea how to help debug that. Any idea ? Thanks, -- Rémi