From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77991 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Sullivan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: New messages marked O before seeing them Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:41:22 -0400 Message-ID: <8762rg77x9.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> References: <87ei69praf.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87vczkcld3.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <871v27zoqh.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87pqppb0f3.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <877hbwc1ls.fsf@nowhere.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300464543 3026 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2011 16:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:09:03 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26305@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Mar 18 17:08:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cER-0000A5-De for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:08:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cDx-0002hb-Vd; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:08:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cDu-0002hE-Qm for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:08:22 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cDq-0000sp-4M for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:08:22 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cDn-0000CQ-UI for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:08:15 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cDn-0008Jn-Nb for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:08:15 +0100 Original-Received: from 74-94-156-210-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([74.94.156.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:08:15 +0100 Original-Received: from john by 74-94-156-210-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:08:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 74-94-156-210-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ThbTAsiGiqjEpupNlp4HQ7e5i2o= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77991 Archived-At: Glyn Millington writes: > John Sullivan writes: > >> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> >>> John Sullivan writes: >>> >>>> Not a for-sure recipe :/ Try sending yourself a few dozen messages >>>> with the folder open for an hour or so. During that time, delete a >>>> few messages, move a few messages to another group, read a few >>>> messages. Then / N. That's closer to the conditions under which I >>>> see it. >>> Could you try to provoke the bug with a simpler recipe? :-) >>> >> >> Yeah, I'm trying, but I can't seem to make it happen, even though it >> happened to 10 or so messages just today in the normal course of >> reading and answering my mail. I'm baffled that other people aren't >> seeing this, because I don't think I'm doing anything weird. The only >> thing I do that's maybe unusual for gnus users is actually delete a >> fair amount of mail. > > I'm seeing it too and have been for some time. I believe it started when > I upgraded to Emacs 23. Changing to No Gnus 13 improved it but did not > eradicate it completely. Okay, good to not be alone :). Can you describe anything else about the conditions under which you see it? Do you also do a lot of moving messages between groups and/or deleting messages? What IMAP server?