From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/74972 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:07:06 +0100 Message-ID: <8762uwdbh1.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: <87tyiho54m.fsf@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292314112 29386 80.91.229.12 (14 Dec 2010 08:08:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:08:32 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23328@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 14 09:08:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSPvt-0000e9-7u for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:08:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSPun-0001Tm-Li; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:07:17 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSPuj-0001Ta-Dt for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:07:13 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSPue-0004U0-KX for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:07:12 -0600 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSPud-00080w-LZ for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:07:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9467801566 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:07:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03884-08 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:07:06 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tassilo@member.fsf.org Original-Received: from thinkpad (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23C17801546 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:07:06 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:24:27 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:74972 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: Hi Lars, >> So as a new user, I'd be very overwhelmed in getting a *Group* buffer >> with hundreds of groups containing thousands of unread messages... > > I would imagine that it's not the common case, though. Probably. > And I would guess that if you point Apple Mail towards such a server, > it would just list all the folders. I cannot speak for Apple Mail, but at least KMail opens a dialog that lets you subscribe to individual groups when adding a new account. And with GUI clients, that's a bit less of an issue, because in their tree views you can simply collapse the Shared Folders. You can do basically the same with Gnus' topics, but you have to create them first. But I guess subscribing to all groups is ok for the time being. But a future setup assistant should have a subscription step (which is needed for nntp anyway). Bye, Tassilo