From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/70728 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pittman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: That newfangled IMAP thing... Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:42:36 +1000 Message-ID: <8762yd6j4j.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <87hbi3jasy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87pqwmsusz.fsf@news.realpath.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284177180 6939 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2010 03:53:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:53:00 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M19101@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Sep 11 05:52:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuH99-0002G2-0Z for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:52:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OuH8P-0006Dw-Un; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:52:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OuH8M-0006Df-V0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:52:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OuH8G-0004SM-81 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:52:08 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OuH8F-0003X0-00 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:52:03 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuH8E-00026M-1P for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:52:02 +0200 Original-Received: from ppp59-167-189-244.static.internode.on.net ([59.167.189.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:52:02 +0200 Original-Received: from daniel by ppp59-167-189-244.static.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:52:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp59-167-189-244.static.internode.on.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DBG6ShdUQU/OzHYd8VFHxbGy0XI= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:70728 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Greg Troxel writes: > >> Right now I have a mail-notification widget in the status tray that >> tells me if INBOX has unread messages. But it would be nice if the >> unread count in INBOX automatically reflected what was happening in >> IMAP, so that I could see the 1 from the arrived message and just hit >> space to enter INBOX without typing g. I would only want gnus to IDLE >> on a tiny number of mailboxes, probably just 1. > > Ah, right, you could IDLE on a mailbox without being in the group. But > you can only IDLE on one mailbox at a time? (Without having several > connections open, that is.) Yes. That makes it essentially useless for anyone doing server-side splitting without additional work, or one connection per folder. The LEMONADE working group, who are trying to get IETF standards for "mobile push email" style stuff, are working on improvements, and someone proposed a "multi-IDLE" that would deal with all mailboxes, but none of those are standard. (...or implemented, AFAIK, by any real IMAP servers.) > But updating the group buffer lines on IDLE would make perfect sense, I > think, and be useful. For folks who used Gnus-side splitting it would be valuable that the IMAP implementation returned to the INBOX and sat in IDLE, so it could also trigger automatic filtering inside Gnus. This would be double-plus extra nice if they wanted to use Gnus splitting *and* be able to use some other client talking to that IMAP server. My partner, for complicated historical reasons, usually has her computer at home running Thunderbird when we travel, since she does client-side filtering with that, and doesn't want that stopped while reading mail through the web interface only. Daniel -- ✣ Daniel Pittman ✉ daniel@rimspace.net ☎ +61 401 155 707 ♽ made with 100 percent post-consumer electrons