From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68804 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:46:46 +0200 Message-ID: <8763dktv1l.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <878wimdbzp.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tz1av8ik.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <83vdlqp0rt.fsf@gnu.org> <874ot8zyqb.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <877hy1gog9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248288440 22722 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2009 18:47:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Stephen J. 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Turnbull), Eli Zaretskii , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <877hy1gog9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:35:18 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-dcc1-Metrics: triton 1182; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113018 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68804 Archived-At: On Wed, Jul 22 2009, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Reiner Steib writes: > > > Obviously the key bindings cannot be resolved without a change for > > either mail-mode or message-mode users. Maybe set the bindings > > depending on some compatibility variable? > > How about the presence of Newsgroups? > > > . In mail-mode C-c C-f C-f moves to FCC; in message-mode C-c C-f C-f > > > moves to Followup-To, and C-c C-f C-w moves to FCC. > > Followup-To is rarely useful in a mail message. A message-mode buffer can be news, mail or both. E.g. when adding Cc to a news posting, the buffer also becomes a mail buffer (see `message-news-p' and `message-mail-p'). I think modifying key bindings depending on `message-news-p'/`message-mail-p' would be confusing. > > > . In mail-mode C-c C-f C-a moves to Mail-Reply-To; in message-mode > There is no Mail-Reply-To header in the mail standards AFAIK. > > > . In mail-mode C-c C-f C-l moves to Mail-Followup-To; in message-mode > > > C-c C-f C-m moves to Mail-Followup-To and C-c C-f C-l is undefined > There is no Mail-Followup-To header in the mail standards AFAIK, > although there is a plausible argument that it is useful for mailing > lists. AFAIK, both aren't in any RFC. But at least Mail-Followup-To is quite useful (and also supported by other MUA like mutt). Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/