From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67457 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Magnus Henoch Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Bug#499774: starttls is a joke Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:09:18 +0200 Message-ID: <8763oj2bc1.fsf@freemail.hu> References: <871vzca7gp.fsf@natisbad.org> <87y71kpmq7.fsf@bubble.risko.hu> <87ljxi3oty.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tzc61abc.fsf@news.realpath.org> <87y71fjb90.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222441842 32333 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2008 15:10:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:10:42 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15908@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 26 17:11:30 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KjEyR-0003Wv-8R for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:11:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjEws-0000rj-HB; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:09:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjEwr-0000rX-Ef for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KjEwo-0008TK-Vl for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KjEwt-000546-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:09:39 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KjEwg-0001eP-II for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:09:27 +0000 Original-Received: from etthundrat.olf.sgsnet.se ([193.11.222.85]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:09:26 +0000 Original-Received: from mange by etthundrat.olf.sgsnet.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:09:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: etthundrat.olf.sgsnet.se Mail-Copies-To: never Jabber-Id: legoscia@jabber.cd.chalmers.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:i37hAW0aYl9TasQ/lOlqXmJHYnA= X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67457 Archived-At: Uwe Brauer writes: > The other thing however is jabber (for gmail chat). It seems to be that > it is using tls. > > (setq jabber-connection-type (quote ssl)) In this configuration, it uses either openssl or gnutls-cli, and would thus not be affected by the removal of the starttls utility. By default jabber.el uses STARTTLS, using starttls.el. In theory it should work with the starttls program (see the variable starttls-use-gnutls), but I've never tested it; I'm quite happy with gnutls-cli. Magnus