From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57981 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pittman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: wallowing out of the spam quagmire Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 00:26:59 +1000 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <87659f67d8.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> References: <868yebsqrk.fsf@rumba.de.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1088175878 7445 80.91.224.253 (25 Jun 2004 15:04:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6522@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jun 25 17:04:17 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BdsFV-0006Hz-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:04:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BdsDN-0007EI-00; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:02:05 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BdsDE-0007EA-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:01:56 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BdsDD-00058n-1e for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:01:55 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092863A003F for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:01:53 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BdsD9-00073k-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:01:51 +0200 Original-Received: from 203-217-29-45.perm.iinet.net.au ([203.217.29.45]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:01:51 +0200 Original-Received: from daniel by 203-217-29-45.perm.iinet.net.au with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:01:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-217-29-45.perm.iinet.net.au Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEWMa2EhFxLannUABQUw Oku3ssL73NYZDAW2RuSFAAACdElEQVR42l2US2/bMAyAacNprlalIVeVSHKuIAO62o22XAOj7nkw YJ2jOUD//kjaSbsJCZTwM9+kAaDwfEyXq9l0/n4AYPnjOgNafQPD5bRqmLYzsdP/gxhJDIgwP4Dc WbUVAPaI2xVs3uVWhsTlMfVYraBefuS2xI+UpuFgF1vQSCCuPSY504CLTzByt5geYDEBjuO74eEb mL9AiaslIgjaZwKKPYjjO7DaVwJ2vinvlgScAgPvqn9Bb09uT0A3ewJfplJvt7d3NuUYfMkn6sMz A/rMDQwPue2genph0JTnK8Bm0Zmq2Jb2UAhoX9oqxsjm+ipC2duh0mzq1QICUC/IjjUW+7KnOhFw CIMt27E8jnikuPvNJSsuSSjtMA4fJB2lMvhU+Jk0tH+7SKVIKjXmmngNQfvrRRIfj2l5QOYJdt4H uAPRGLnrOzBMyhWkB8gQCfg3EazJj+dAoULH/XoW2yRDAcoHB4rBK2ctgNSw67zL0kHfHEmGi3+0 8cwBCXB4QKQ8RsoRbctu4SzDUpJcwqXLRjWHDMtA/kI+9Lw9ji8EslnBn4/RktZhohJvo9L5JuAz mCkto4WpV1HtlIJlB7qn1HNdxkPaO1qVuAITay574u/WVVDFxYe7QbGZyDl9phNr0LrMnPkVimuS wNJv7bh8ZOqTikIabu3fXnvlMw+DogcCFPOPZX4iT38uqOexpZ1qC93IZI0CrlUH2SiqSl2c/E8G VjavpoEiD2ftX6miDSVyAW5fgBKp50HvPk3d+VADtMAr2Vh5ETTeqXyN1E0+7KKmslE/nA/K1DAL 4JUN3AR69wSdY0E2aIZBXDjO9C9KCQDyFdsMXQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vx/64SRh05W0kZ6VdeWRk7hWbCs= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57981 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57981 On 25 Jun 2004, Kai Grossjohann wrote: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> So to summarize. I let procmail/sa do most splitting and culling out >> of spam. When that is done, the rest comes to my inbox and I deal >> with it by hand. I hoped to introduce bogofilter at that stage. > > My suggestion for you is to tell procmail to run all mail through > bogofilter. You can tell bogofilter to add a header saying whether > the mail is spam. This is a good suggestion, and the way I generally prefer to deal with spam detection -- doing it before I even see the message in my "new mail" indicator. OTOH, I have a preference for SpamAssassin, which does the same statistical stuff as Bogofilter, and a bunch of other useful testing as well. If you have control over your SMTP server, take a look at the 'amavisd-new' package, which hooks into the loop and deals with SPAM tagging with SpamAssassin as well as virus detection, and works very nicely. Daniel -- Should I abide by the rules until they're changed, or help speed the change by breaking them? -- Ashleigh Brilliant