From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49381 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: deskpot@myrealbox.com (Vasily Korytov) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What method do *you* use for signing Usenet posts? Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:17:49 +0300 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <8765skaabm.fsf@unix.home> References: <87d6mtf3tq.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> <87znpwrjoa.fsf@unix.home> <87el78eqce.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> <87hec4g22z.fsf@unix.home> <87k7h0af7g.fsf@eris.void.at> <87bs2cg0va.fsf@unix.home> <87fzroachf.fsf@eris.void.at> <878yxgabna.fsf@unix.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043025426 30325 80.91.224.249 (20 Jan 2003 01:17:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 01:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18aQYh-0007sd-00 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 02:17:04 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18aQZ6-0004R9-00; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:17:28 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:18:24 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22278 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:18:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 95270 invoked by alias); 20 Jan 2003 01:16:59 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 95265 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 01:16:58 -0000 Original-Received: from ns1.telekom.ru (root@194.190.195.83) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 01:16:58 -0000 Original-Received: from unix.home (h60.217.elnet.msk.ru [194.190.217.60]) by ns1.telekom.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h0K1H4Ok024565 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:17:04 +0300 Original-Received: (qmail 1771 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2003 01:18:41 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (alias@127.0.0.1) by localhost with QMTP; 20 Jan 2003 01:18:41 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1745 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Jan 2003 01:17:52 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: VK Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <878yxgabna.fsf@unix.home> (deskpot@myrealbox.com's message of "Mon, 20 Jan 2003 03:49:13 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090013 (Oort Gnus v0.13) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49381 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49381 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> "VK" =3D=3D Vasily Korytov writes: >>>>> "asf" =3D=3D Andreas Fuchs writes: asf> IMHO, there is no way to prefer one over the other: If there are mime asf> parts in the message, it should be signed as a multipart, and if there asf> is no mime part in it, gnus should not put one in, for size and asf> compatibility considerations. VK> Ha. Seems, you simply don't know much about ``compatibility VK> considerations''. Some MUAs only have the support for RFC1991, some -- VK> only for 2015. So there's a good reason to specify it sometimes VK> manually. Yeah, one thing more about ``compatibility considerations'' and ``broken email gateways'', both mentioned by you. Well, I had a POP3 accound on the M$ME server -- and this machine did weird things with PGP signatures. The signed part was left, the signature was cut, the whole former message was attached as application/ms-tnef -- having a normal PGP-signed message on the SMTP input. So, the signatures were practically deleted. But in RFC1991-style messages this stupid Exchange couldn't find the text part -- and removed everything. So, nothing is so simple. RFC1991 isn't the compatibility aid, as you propose it to be. =2D--Vas --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+K05AoPg1JPzYGEERAhp0AKCE87vsx8JE1E2ikZ+/7HksGvl6iACg92Na gt+MHjiazrLonymkHIlq96A= =gHIJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--