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0> In article <87g0l4kbus.fsf@nwalsh.com>,
0> Norman D. Walsh <URL:mailto:ndw@nwalsh.com> ("Norman") wrote:

Norman> Unfortunately, my
Norman>
Norman> (setq nnmail-split-fancy
Norman>    ...
Norman> 	     (any "list1@.*example\.com" "example.list1")
Norman> 	     (any "list2@.*example\.com" "example.list2")
Norman>    ...)
Norman>
Norman> puts two copies of this message in nnml:example.list1 instead of
Norman> putting one copy in example.list1 and another in
Norman> example.list2.

I assume you have (| ) around those two rules; maybe (& ) is what
you're looking for.  Split to all matches, not just the first.  That
does mean that both copies will be split to both groups - that's not
a problem for me, as I use duplicate suppression, but you may have
different circumstances.


Norman> On close inspection, I do see that one of the received headers
Norman> offers a clue:
Norman>
Norman>   Received: from eastmail1.example.com (eastmail1.example.com [129.148.1.240])
Norman>   	by mail1.example.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6.1-mail1) with ESMTP id NAA19369
Norman> 	for <list1@example.com>; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:02:24 -0800 (PST)
Norman>
Norman> I suppose I could filter on that, though I feel a little
Norman> uncomfortable filtering on received: headers.  Is my
Norman> discomfort unfounded?

I feel a bit uncomfortable, too, if I do that, because you don't know
when the site will change mailer (or reconfigure their mailer) and
lose the vital bit.

But you could use it, with fallback to considering explicit recipients:

(|
  (|
     (received "for\\s-+list1@.*example\\.com" "example.list1")
     (received "for\\s-+list2@.*example\\.com" "example.list2"))
  (&
     (to "\\<list1@.*example\\.com" "example.list1")
     (to "\\<list2@.*example\\.com" "example.list2")))


Or even

(|
  (received "for\\s-+\\(list[12]\\)@.*\\<example\\.com" "example.\\1")
  (&
     (to "\\<list1@.*example\\.com" "example.list1")
     (to "\\<list2@.*example\\.com" "example.list2")))


I agree that lists should set the envelope from address, and also the
Sender header...