From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24807 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2020 01:30:53 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 25 Sep 2020 01:30:53 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kLcZS-00GDcN-IQ; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:30:46 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kLcZP-00GDaS-49 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:30:43 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kLcYs-0029ty-7e for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:30:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=q0SHycWJH1F/Gy48CPURrAcHno1JzrACUlydZJeQ6d4=; b=Rg09DFLt1RV4fBCWBq+6kPs3Zg wPMmyqYf/NBp/fYDvp2ZMPxy9ODvwIF3e7zDuyOa1VMMYnEF1J3HJDueqjw2F0ci1zL4BLQTATLG/ mpPZ9TyKqcVtwpP7HVz9ehCWZf5xOOvQHnFr1VnEGh6czRyrovemtZsER9njlaj3qhPo=; Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214] helo=ciao.gmane.io) by quimby with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLcYl-0004ld-PB for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:30:05 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLcYk-000AVY-BF for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:30:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Unpleasant catch 22 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 18:26:43 -0700 Message-ID: <877dsibq98.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87zh5gf5sk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pn6bg6fk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871riquaqd.fsf@local.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KNXETx/pPkJqub7ovRbCAcHRJ/s= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Harry Putnam writes: [...] > Thanks; so not much use apparently. Not much, I think it's weird. >> This is separate from the fact that authentication failure of any server >> shouldn't hang the whole startup process. > > No need to keep on in this vain as it is fixed in fortinc server. Fixed for you, but not for the next user who runs into it! >>......................Is the bum authentication >> information for this server stored in ~/.authinfo{.gpg}? If it is, and >> you delete the corresponding line, does Gnus prompt you anew for a >> password to use? > > Egad I wish I'd have thought of that. I was mucking around with >.authinfo trying different passwd etc... and still never cottoned to > that simple fix. > > Although given the way gnus was resonded to bad authinfo, I suspect > using the `prompted for' passwd and having a wrong passwd entered might > still have stopped the music. Possibly so, so we're back to fixing the underlying issue. Anyway, I'll poke at it and try to figure out what's going on.