From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87811 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: tricky explicit interactive verbosity Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:22:33 -0800 Message-ID: <877eusu8xi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <86inef4cmf.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510676773 22520 195.159.176.226 (14 Nov 2017 16:26:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:26:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m36025@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 14 17:26:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.35]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEe2F-0005Dp-Ks for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:26:03 +0100 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 847347ec-c958-11e7-8154-b499baabecb2; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEe0v-00005y-MZ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:24:41 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEe0t-00005V-IF for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:24:39 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEe0r-0000mX-75 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:24:39 -0600 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1eEe0o-0005qa-22 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:24:34 +0100 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEe0d-0008QB-1U for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:24:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:1FslvChNeMFIsfyHZC8EyI6uURg= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87811 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > From `gnus-message': > > Guideline for numbers: > 1 - error messages, 3 - non-serious error > messages, 5 - messages for things that take > a long time, 7 - not very important > messages on stuff, 9 - messages > inside loops. > > On the other hand `gnus-summary-current-score', > being an interactive function even with > a binding (`V S' in summary), it is a bit > confusing that with `gnus-verbose' at 0, which > you might not think of at the moment, nothing > is outputted even when the user explicitely > calls for the score output! > > Perhaps gnus-summary-current-score should > always echo the score when used interactively? > And only when used programmatically refer to the > verbosity level? It doesn't look like `gnus-summary-current-score' is used programmatically at all, so I'm not sure why it would need to use gnus-message in the first place. Other code can (and does) use whichever of `gnus-summary-article-score' or `gnus-thread-total-score' is necessary. I'd be in favor of just using `message'. Eric