From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87622 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: different speed of opening a Gmane NG in Gnus Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:06:34 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <877eyj77h1.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <86o9s1yn9j.fsf@zoho.com> <87r2wsa0kd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86zibgl4nb.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501855680 4283 195.159.176.226 (4 Aug 2017 14:08:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 14:08:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m35836@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Aug 04 16:07:55 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.34]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dddGb-0000fa-4L for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 16:07:53 +0200 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 4ff88750-791e-11e7-b237-b499baa2b07a; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dddFr-0005nG-PJ; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dddFk-0005mV-MY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:07:00 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dddFi-0002dy-RQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:07:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dddFh-00018N-FB for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 16:06:57 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dddFT-0005sm-As for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 16:06:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:QrFq4vehVX0JtFlBcUT6b7a6mAU= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87622 Archived-At: On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 23:31:36 +0200 Emanuel Berg wrote: EB> Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> It's either server-side or client-side. EB> If I'm the client, it is the same computer and EB> Internet connection. Gnus (the client) can have different behavior for different groups because of many things (e.g. scoring). EB> If Gmane is the server, isn't it the same Gmane? While I don't speak for the current Gmane operators, I know that when Lars was running it he posted about the fun he had with storage migration and optimization. So it's entirely possible two groups could live on different storage devices for administrative reasons, resulting in different performance on the server. Another issue may be filesystem or news server performance for small vs. large groups. Whatever the server-side reason, once you determine it's on the server, there's not much you can do since Lars is not running it and the new operators are not communicating with us. So let's hope it's on the client side because then you could dig further. HTH Ted