* scanning for new mail with demon-handler @ 2011-06-17 16:54 lee 2011-06-17 17:04 ` Adam Sjøgren 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: lee @ 2011-06-17 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Hi, in ~/.gnus.el, I have ,---- | (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-mail 3 5) | (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-close-connections nil 25) | (gnus-demon-init) `---- which makes gnus scan for new mail automatically. Unfortunately, the new mail doesn´t show up in the groups it has been split into after gnus has performed the scan. It shows up after pressing g in the group view, though. Do I need to use gnus-demon-add-scanmail instead, or am I missing something? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-17 16:54 scanning for new mail with demon-handler lee @ 2011-06-17 17:04 ` Adam Sjøgren 2011-06-17 19:05 ` lee 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-17 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:54:27 +0200, lee wrote: > | (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-mail 3 5) > which makes gnus scan for new mail automatically. Unfortunately, the new > mail doesn´t show up in the groups it has been split into after gnus has > performed the scan. It shows up after pressing g in the group view, > though. > Do I need to use gnus-demon-add-scanmail instead, or am I missing > something? gnus-demon-scan-news does what you are asking for. And maybe more. Best regards, Adam -- "He also no longer jokes about world domination; it Adam Sjøgren was only funny when it was obviously meant in jest." asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-17 17:04 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-17 19:05 ` lee 2011-06-17 19:17 ` Adam Sjøgren 2011-06-17 19:19 ` Adam Sjøgren 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: lee @ 2011-06-17 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:54:27 +0200, lee wrote: > >> | (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-mail 3 5) > >> which makes gnus scan for new mail automatically. Unfortunately, the new >> mail doesn´t show up in the groups it has been split into after gnus has >> performed the scan. It shows up after pressing g in the group view, >> though. > >> Do I need to use gnus-demon-add-scanmail instead, or am I missing >> something? > > gnus-demon-scan-news does what you are asking for. And maybe more. Yes, it does more, that´s why I like gnus-demon-scan-mail :) Gnus-demon-scan-news also scans for new news, creating unneccessary network traffic and load on the news servers. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-17 19:05 ` lee @ 2011-06-17 19:17 ` Adam Sjøgren 2011-06-17 19:19 ` Adam Sjøgren 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-17 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:05:06 +0200, lee wrote: >> gnus-demon-scan-news does what you are asking for. And maybe more. > Yes, it does more, that´s why I like gnus-demon-scan-mail :) > Gnus-demon-scan-news also scans for new news, creating unneccessary > network traffic and load on the news servers. Also, it updates the *Group* buffer. Best regards, Adam -- "He also no longer jokes about world domination; it Adam Sjøgren was only funny when it was obviously meant in jest." asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-17 19:05 ` lee 2011-06-17 19:17 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-17 19:19 ` Adam Sjøgren 2011-06-17 20:34 ` lee 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-17 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:05:06 +0200, lee wrote: > Yes, it does more, that´s why I like gnus-demon-scan-mail :) > Gnus-demon-scan-news also scans for new news, creating unneccessary > network traffic and load on the news servers. If you put your mail groups on a different level than your newsgroups, maybe you can use a customized version of gnus-demon-scan-news to do what you want. Best regards, -- "He also no longer jokes about world domination; it Adam Sjøgren was only funny when it was obviously meant in jest." asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-17 19:19 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-17 20:34 ` lee 2011-06-19 16:49 ` Philipp Haselwarter 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: lee @ 2011-06-17 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:05:06 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Yes, it does more, that´s why I like gnus-demon-scan-mail :) >> Gnus-demon-scan-news also scans for new news, creating unneccessary >> network traffic and load on the news servers. > > If you put your mail groups on a different level than your newsgroups, > maybe you can use a customized version of gnus-demon-scan-news to do > what you want. Hm, I´ve read a post saying that you could set newsgroups to a higher level for them not to be included when checking for new messages. I tried that, found that it didn´t work and learned that the levels are also used to distinguish between unsubscribed and zomie groups. So I decided to better not play with group levels until I know better what I´m doing. Unfortunately, I don´t know yet how to make a customized function like that ... There´s so much to learn when you start using gnus that it´ll take a while. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-17 20:34 ` lee @ 2011-06-19 16:49 ` Philipp Haselwarter 2011-06-19 18:08 ` lee 2011-06-19 22:07 ` Adam Sjøgren 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Philipp Haselwarter @ 2011-06-19 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1090 bytes --] On 2011-06-17 20:34 UT, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote: l> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:05:06 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> Yes, it does more, that´s why I like gnus-demon-scan-mail :) >>> Gnus-demon-scan-news also scans for new news, creating unneccessary >>> network traffic and load on the news servers. >> >> If you put your mail groups on a different level than your >> newsgroups, maybe you can use a customized version of >> gnus-demon-scan-news to do what you want. l> Hm, I´ve read a post saying that you could set newsgroups to a higher l> level for them not to be included when checking for new messages.I l> tried that, found that it didn´t work and learned that the levels are l> also used to distinguish between unsubscribed and zomie groups.So I l> decided to better not play with group levels until I know better what l> I´m doing. l> Unfortunately, I don´t know yet how to make a customized function l> like that ...There´s so much to learn when you start using gnus that l> it´ll take a while. I'd suggest something like [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/x-patch, Size: 1567 bytes --] Modified lisp/gnus-demon.el diff --git a/lisp/gnus-demon.el b/lisp/gnus-demon.el index 419346b..6146b53 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus-demon.el +++ b/lisp/gnus-demon.el @@ -191,15 +191,34 @@ minutes, the connection is closed." "Add daemonic scanning of new articles from all backends." (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news 120 60)) -(defun gnus-demon-scan-news () +(defun gnus-demon-scan-news (&optional arg) (let ((win (current-window-configuration))) (unwind-protect (save-window-excursion (when (gnus-alive-p) (with-current-buffer gnus-group-buffer - (gnus-group-get-new-news)))) + (gnus-group-get-new-news arg)))) (set-window-configuration win)))) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-1 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 1)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-2 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 2)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-3 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 3)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-4 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 4)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-5 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 5)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-6 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 6)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-7 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 7)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-8 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 8)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-9 + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 9)) + (defun gnus-demon-add-scan-timestamps () "Add daemonic updating of timestamps in empty newgroups." (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-timestamps nil 30)) [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 416 bytes --] For example, I keep local mail on level 1, external mail on 3, nntp on 4 and nnrss on level 5 and fetch them accordingly: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-1 121 10) (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-3 240 10) (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-4 601 10) (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-5 7201 10) #+end_src -- Philipp Haselwarter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-19 16:49 ` Philipp Haselwarter @ 2011-06-19 18:08 ` lee 2011-06-19 22:07 ` Adam Sjøgren 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: lee @ 2011-06-19 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Philipp Haselwarter <philipp.haselwarter@gmx.de> writes: > On 2011-06-17 20:34 UT, lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote: > > l> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > >>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:05:06 +0200, lee wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, it does more, that´s why I like gnus-demon-scan-mail :) >>>> Gnus-demon-scan-news also scans for new news, creating unneccessary >>>> network traffic and load on the news servers. >>> >>> If you put your mail groups on a different level than your >>> newsgroups, maybe you can use a customized version of >>> gnus-demon-scan-news to do what you want. > > l> Hm, I´ve read a post saying that you could set newsgroups to a higher > l> level for them not to be included when checking for new messages. > > I'd suggest something like > > Modified lisp/gnus-demon.el > diff --git a/lisp/gnus-demon.el b/lisp/gnus-demon.el > > For example, I keep local mail on level 1, external mail on 3, nntp on 4 > and nnrss on level 5 and fetch them accordingly: > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp > (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-1 121 10) > (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-3 240 10) > (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-4 601 10) > (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-5 7201 10) > #+end_src That´s a good idea :) Any chance of this becoming the default? BTW, since you´re setting timestamps, did you get nndiary to work? I managed to get an "nndiary:diary" group in the group view after manually creating the group (The documentation should point out that you need to create the group manually ...), yet nndiary does nothing. It doesn´t receive new mail from its source, and when I move messages manually into the diary group, nothing happens either. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-19 16:49 ` Philipp Haselwarter 2011-06-19 18:08 ` lee @ 2011-06-19 22:07 ` Adam Sjøgren 2011-06-20 2:19 ` Philipp Haselwarter 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-19 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:49:58 +0200, Philipp wrote: > +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-1 > + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 1)) > +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-2 > + (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 2)) [...snipped the last 7...] That looks like... there must be a better way than such repetition? > (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-1 121 10) Maybe you could do something like a lambda here instead? Along the lines of (gnus-demon-add-handler '(lambda () (gnus-demon-scan-news 1)) 121 10) or something? Best regards, Adam - not an expert. -- "That's one of the remarkable things about life. It's Adam Sjøgren never so bad that it can't get worse." asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: scanning for new mail with demon-handler 2011-06-19 22:07 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-06-20 2:19 ` Philipp Haselwarter 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Philipp Haselwarter @ 2011-06-20 2:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1210 bytes --] On 2011-06-19 22:07 UT, Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> wrote: AS> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:49:58 +0200, Philipp wrote: >> +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-1 + (apply-partially >> 'gnus-demon-scan-news 1)) +(fset 'gnus-demon-scan-news-2 + >> (apply-partially 'gnus-demon-scan-news 2)) AS> [...snipped the last 7...] AS> That looks like...there must be a better way than such repetition? >> (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news-1 121 10) AS> Maybe you could do something like a lambda here instead?Along the AS> lines of AS> (gnus-demon-add-handler '(lambda () (gnus-demon-scan-news 1)) 121 AS> 10) AS> or something? Using lambda-forms on timers has the same problem as their usage on hooks, they're a pain to deal with once you added them. Simple overriding or removing them fails. Evaluating gnus-demon-add-handler several times results in a new timer getting added every time. #+begin_src emacs-lisp (gnus-demon-add-handler (lambda () (message "foo")) 8 3) ;; comparison with `eq' fails with current code: (gnus-demon-remove-handler (lambda () (message "foo"))) #+end_src Then again, this could be easily fixed, which would certainly make sense, no matter if the fsets are provided or not: [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #2: allow lambda-forms as gnus-demon-handler --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 516 bytes --] Modified lisp/gnus-demon.el diff --git a/lisp/gnus-demon.el b/lisp/gnus-demon.el index 419346b..c799a3c 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus-demon.el +++ b/lisp/gnus-demon.el @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ Emacs has been idle for IDLE `gnus-demon-timestep's." (defun gnus-demon-remove-handler (function &optional no-init) "Remove the handler FUNCTION from the list of handlers." - (gnus-alist-pull function gnus-demon-handlers) + (gnus-alist-pull function gnus-demon-handlers 'use-assoc) (unless no-init (gnus-demon-init))) [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 85 bytes --] AS> Best regards, AS> Adam - not an expert. best, -- Philipp Haselwarter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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