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From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: SSL certificate issues for git.gnus.org
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:54:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877hbsntac.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8739n80x9j.fsf@lifelogs.com>

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:33:44 -0600, Ted wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:59:43 +0100 asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: 

AS> The only difference in security is whatever confirmation of identity the
AS> organisation signing the certificate performs, right?

> You're talking about abstract security, as a signing process.  I'm
> saying the *user* has to either import the self-signed certificate off
> the website and hope it's not compromised or he has to disable
> http.sslVerify.

No, I am talking about the difference between knowing that the traffic
isn't snoopable between client and server (more secure than plain text)
vs. that+someone having said "the server is who the server claims to
be" (arguably slightly-to-a-lot more secure, depending on who you trust).

I think it was a fundamental error to conflate those two things. But
hey, it made some people very, very rich - and we got Ubuntu.

> Furthermore, a self-signed certificate looks unprofessional.

"I wear my unprofessionalism as a badge of honor. Professionalism has no
  place in art"

> On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:51:30 +0100 Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> wrote: 

JD> I hate this certificate business which brings nothing if just money
JD> to bad companies.

> I respectfully disagree.  The current prices on the major sellers are
> certainly ridiculous but there are many reasonable and even free ones.

Alas, the ones that are free either aren't in the Major Browsers by
default, or they (arbitrarily) don't allow you to create certificates
for multiple domains (subjectAltNames).


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "But they are all following you!                             Adam Sjøgren
  No, they ain't, I'm just in front"                     asjo@koldfront.dk




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-21 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-12  2:25 Gnus Git repository info and comitters: need updated password Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-12  8:31 ` David Engster
2010-04-12 10:20   ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-04-12 17:36   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-12 17:52   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-12 18:57     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-14 10:38       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-14 11:24         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-14 13:10           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-14 16:59             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-15  3:07               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-15  7:57                 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-12 17:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-12 17:49   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-12 18:29     ` Bjørn Mork
2010-04-12 19:01       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-12 18:53     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-12 19:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-12 19:18   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-12 19:29     ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found] ` <87bpdpgsj9.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org>
2010-04-14 11:07   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-14 11:34     ` Romain Francoise
2010-04-15  6:50     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-04-15 13:46       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-15 17:04         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-15 22:54           ` Andreas Seltenreich
2010-04-16  1:25             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-16 21:49               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-17 21:00                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-17  8:24             ` Andreas Seltenreich
2010-04-17 10:01               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-17 16:52                 ` Andreas Seltenreich
2010-04-17 10:29               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-17 21:02                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-17 21:28                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-17 22:00                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-17 23:26                       ` Tim Landscheidt
2010-04-18  9:51                         ` Andreas Seltenreich
2010-04-18 11:53                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-18 12:10                           ` Leo
2010-04-18 15:26                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-18 21:04                               ` Gnus, git, www.gnus.org (was: Gnus Git repository info and comitters: need updated password) Reiner Steib
2010-04-19 17:49                                 ` Gnus, git, www.gnus.org Reiner Steib
2010-04-19 18:10                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-19 19:21                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-19 20:12                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-19 23:28                                     ` Tim Landscheidt
2010-04-20  3:41                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-22 17:31                                         ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-04-22 19:48                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-22 23:49                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-23  0:35                                               ` Harry Putnam
2010-04-23  1:28                                                 ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-23 10:00                                               ` Bjørn Mork
2010-04-23 13:01                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-23 13:08                                                   ` Greg Troxel
2010-04-23 13:20                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-23  9:18                                             ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-04-23 12:54                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-23 16:41                                                 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-04-18 13:06                           ` Gnus Git repository info and comitters: need updated password Andreas Seltenreich
2010-04-18 15:20                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-18 15:32                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-18 16:35                                 ` Andreas Seltenreich
2010-04-18 23:37                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-19  1:01                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-19  6:12                                       ` James Cloos
2010-04-20  3:11                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-23  9:54                           ` Tim Landscheidt
2010-04-23 13:16                             ` SSL certificate issues for git.gnus.org (was: Gnus Git repository info and comitters: need updated password) Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-25 21:58                               ` SSL certificate issues for git.gnus.org Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-25 22:39                                 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-25 22:54                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-25 22:59                                     ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-26  7:51                                       ` Julien Danjou
2011-02-26 13:14                                         ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-26 14:59                                           ` Steinar Bang
2011-02-28 19:33                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-28 21:01                                         ` Steinar Bang
2011-03-01 10:38                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-01 10:53                                             ` Steinar Bang
2011-03-05 12:04                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-05 20:00                                                 ` Steinar Bang
2011-03-07 17:26                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  9:44                                                   ` Simon Josefsson
2011-03-10 11:55                                                     ` Steinar Bang
2011-03-10 21:50                                                       ` Simon Josefsson
2011-03-10 22:01                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-11  5:57                                                           ` Simon Josefsson
2011-03-13 22:24                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-14  8:59                                                               ` Simon Josefsson
2011-03-14  9:30                                                                 ` Matthias Andree
2011-03-15 15:45                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-15 16:03                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 10:59                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 11:31                                                                       ` Greg Troxel
2011-03-16 13:21                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 11:07                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10 15:52                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10 19:43                                                       ` James Cloos
2011-03-21 19:54                                         ` Adam Sjøgren [this message]
2011-03-21 22:41                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-21 22:45                                             ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-02-26  9:24                                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-04-18  8:47                     ` Gnus Git repository info and comitters: need updated password Andreas Schwab
2010-04-16  6:14         ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-04-16  9:47           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-16  8:19     ` Didier Verna

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