From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75260 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Julien Danjou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Re-imagining Gnus as a mail reader Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:38:34 +0100 Message-ID: <877hf669t1.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> References: <87hbebgoeb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874oabp0s7.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <87sjxvdrcf.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292708381 4033 80.91.229.12 (18 Dec 2010 21:39:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23615@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Dec 18 22:39:36 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PU4V5-0005be-5w for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:39:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PU4UP-00080C-Tu; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:38:53 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PU4UN-0007zr-Qa for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:38:51 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PU4UM-0003iX-Ay for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:38:51 -0600 Original-Received: from prometheus.naquadah.org ([212.85.154.174] helo=mx1.naquadah.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PU4UK-0006dc-FK for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:38:48 +0100 Original-Received: by mx1.naquadah.org (Postfix, from userid 8) id 0522D5C14F; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:38:43 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on prometheus.naquadah.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Original-Received: from keller.adm.naquadah.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:2e39:e900:222:faff:fe9d:ce44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.naquadah.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEFA55C11F; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:38:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from jd by keller.adm.naquadah.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PU4UB-0002TD-Pi; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:38:39 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: Ted Zlatanov , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87sjxvdrcf.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:37:52 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75260 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 18 2010, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >>> I think you mean you'd like gnus-sync.el to be more than data storage: a >>> search/modify facility that Gnus would rely on to set and get article >>> counts, marks, etc. It would act like a general IMAP backend between >>> the specific backends like nnimap and nnml and the general Gnus >>> facilities like getting the list of articles and marks. Yes, it >>> certainly could do that, and then it would be much more integrated with >>> Gnus than I was thinking. You'd have to do a lot of work. > > JD> No. > > I appreciate the depth and thoroughness of your response. I'm sorry, but I misread you[1], and after re-reading your message a dozen of times I just understand what you really meant. So actually, I think your idea could be very good if that's done correctly. `gnus-sync' would be a no-op in the case of nnimap + a good and usual IMAP server[2], but would be a file storage facility for other back-ends where the server does not provide marks/subscriptions/whatever storage. (Not sure gnus-sync is a good name since I don't think it would be the sync part itself like it is currently.) Once again, my apologies for being a bit rude, Ted. :) [1] Not because you wrote badly, but probably because I'm not a native English speaker and your sentence sounded another way in my head, plus that I merged that with what you wrote previously about gnus-sync. [2] It could still be useful for IMAP anonymous access, =C3=A0 la NNTP. =2D-=20 Julien Danjou =E2=9D=B1 http://julien.danjou.info --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0NKdoACgkQpGK1HsL+5c1QhQCcDdSlT6SwL1pj7lRwjsnKGbm+ pVAAoKcZJk8KR1jcePS5IGIHskIVpVoy =0LF4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--