From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69162 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: filtering nntp messages Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:12:08 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <877hulpmkn.fsf@newsguy.com> References: <87fx9ayr7z.fsf@newsguy.com> <874oppivvc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87skd9en56.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bpjxpnim.fsf@newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256350370 3870 80.91.229.12 (24 Oct 2009 02:12:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:12:50 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M17575@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Oct 24 04:12:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N1W7W-0002p2-OY for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:12:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N1W7O-0001od-SD; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:12:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N1W7N-0001oQ-5x for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:12:33 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N1W7L-0006Fl-9Y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:12:33 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1N1W7K-0006Qt-00 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:12:30 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1N1W7J-0002k0-Pk for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:12:29 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([98.215.178.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:12:29 +0200 Original-Received: from reader by c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:12:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-178-110.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/FjsQfvc+lWSsD1DgY+vNeE4whs= X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69162 Archived-At: Harry Putnam writes: >> Statistical spam backends will require fetching every message body, >> though, which could be painful. Unfortunately that's the best solution >> nowadays. You may want to look into integrating some anti-spam solution >> with leafnode on arrival or something like it (I don't know if it's >> possible!). Then you can just score on headers, with spam.el or not. > > Sounds like scoring would be a better and easier solution eh Ted?. I mean > you can score on just the headers right... and mark things read by > scoring or the like, not having to download all bodies. Or am I > missing your point? > > Actually I could use a nice example of scoring to mark read or similar. My god... I've spent the last 20-30 minutes just browsing thru the stuff on scoring. It looks like the biggest morass of pita generating rules and all manner of this ways and that ways, that I've seen in yrs. I remember starting to work on this stuff yrs ago... now I see why I didn't stick with it. It must be less complex than it looks (I say hopefully). I'd like to try it a bit I guess, but can I tie the scoring into gnus-parameters so its just select groups? Anyone have an example of that" Certain groups have become just really spammed to death... one example is comp.unix.shell. But posters there tell me they don't see much spam.. that its my nntp server at fault. That may be... are there any other newsguy users here? I've been with them since they were still zippo.com (before the cigarette ligher co sued them) sometime in mid or late 90s. But looking around the home site I'm not finding a way to filter nntp, just pop3. Anyone know better?