gnus with Fastmail.fm account

gnus with Fastmail.fm account

[Trey Sizemore]

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Hi all-

Anyone on the list using a Fastmail.fm IMAP account that can help me
with getting gnus setup for me to read my mail?  Especially how I go
about looking at the mail in the various folders under my INBOX?

I'm in the process of getting into emacs and want to use it for as much
as possible, including sending & receiving my mail.

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Trey
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Re: gnus with Fastmail.fm account

[Tassilo Horn]

Trey Sizemore <trey@fastmail.fm> writes:

Hi Trey,

> Anyone on the list using a Fastmail.fm IMAP account that can help me
> with getting gnus setup for me to read my mail?  Especially how I go
> about looking at the mail in the various folders under my INBOX?

That should be a minimal setup for reading and sending mail.

,----[ ~/.gnus.el ]
| ;; Reading mail via IMAP
| (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|              '(nnimap "Fastmail"
|                       (nnimap-address "mail.messagingengine.com")))
| 
| ;; Sending via Fastmail's SMTP
| (require 'smtpmail)
| (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
|       message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
|       smtpmail-smtp-server  "mail.messagingengine.com")
`----

,----[ ~/.authinfo ]
| machine mail.messagingengine.com login thorn@fastmail.fm password XXX force yes
`----

After you did those entries start gnus and hit `^' in the *Group* buffer
which brings you to the server buffer.  There hit RET on the Fastmail
server and you enter its groups listing where you can subscribe to
groups with `u'.

HTH,
Tassilo

Re: gnus with Fastmail.fm account

[Trey Sizemore]

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On Fri Sep 07, 2007 09:32AM, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Trey Sizemore <trey@fastmail.fm> writes:
> 
> Hi Trey,
> 
> > Anyone on the list using a Fastmail.fm IMAP account that can help me
> > with getting gnus setup for me to read my mail?  Especially how I go
> > about looking at the mail in the various folders under my INBOX?
> 
> That should be a minimal setup for reading and sending mail.
> 
> ,----[ ~/.gnus.el ]
> | ;; Reading mail via IMAP
> | (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
> |              '(nnimap "Fastmail"
> |                       (nnimap-address "mail.messagingengine.com")))
> | 
> | ;; Sending via Fastmail's SMTP
> | (require 'smtpmail)
> | (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
> |       message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
> |       smtpmail-smtp-server  "mail.messagingengine.com")
> `----
> 
> ,----[ ~/.authinfo ]
> | machine mail.messagingengine.com login thorn@fastmail.fm password XXX force yes
> `----
> 
> After you did those entries start gnus and hit `^' in the *Group* buffer
> which brings you to the server buffer.  There hit RET on the Fastmail
> server and you enter its groups listing where you can subscribe to
> groups with `u'.
> 
> HTH,
> Tassilo
> 

Thanks Tassilo-

That worked for getting to the mail.  The default layout for messages
looks a bit ugly for my taste, so I'll need to read up on how to change
this.  I assume I can also do the things I'm used to in mutt such as
mark messages as important, gpg sign, include citations in the message
body easily, etc.?

Perhaps someone on the list can point me to a nice, heavily-commented
.gnus file from which I can learn and pilfer some of the above? ;-)

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Re: gnus with Fastmail.fm account

[Tassilo Horn]

Trey Sizemore <trey@fastmail.fm> writes:

Hi Trey,

> The default layout for messages looks a bit ugly for my taste, so I'll
> need to read up on how to change this.

I think you mean

,----[ C-h v gnus-summary-line-format RET ]
| gnus-summary-line-format is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
| Its value is 
| "%U%R%z%4{%B%} %(%[%4L: %-20,20f%]%) %s\n"
| 
| 
| Documentation:
| *The format specification of the lines in the summary buffer.
| 
| It works along the same lines as a normal formatting string,
| with some simple extensions.
| 
| %N   Article number, left padded with spaces (string)
| %S   Subject (string)
| %s   Subject if it is at the root of a thread, and "" otherwise (string)
| %n   Name of the poster (string)
| %a   Extracted name of the poster (string)
| %A   Extracted address of the poster (string)
| %F   Contents of the From: header (string)
| %f   Contents of the From: or To: headers (string)
| %x   Contents of the Xref: header (string)
| %D   Date of the article (string)
| %d   Date of the article (string) in DD-MMM format
| %o   Date of the article (string) in YYYYMMDD`T'HHMMSS format
| %M   Message-id of the article (string)
| %r   References of the article (string)
| %c   Number of characters in the article (integer)
| %k   Pretty-printed version of the above (string)
|      For example, "1.2k" or "0.4M".
| %L   Number of lines in the article (integer)
| %I   Indentation based on thread level (a string of spaces)
| %B   A complex trn-style thread tree (string)
|      The variables `gnus-sum-thread-*' can be used for customization.
| %T   A string with two possible values: 80 spaces if the article
|      is on thread level two or larger and 0 spaces on level one
| %R   "A" if this article has been replied to, " " otherwise (character)
| %U   Status of this article (character, "R", "K", "-" or " ")
| %[   Opening bracket (character, "[" or "<")
| %]   Closing bracket (character, "]" or ">")
| %>   Spaces of length thread-level (string)
| %<   Spaces of length (- 20 thread-level) (string)
| %i   Article score (number)
| %z   Article zcore (character)
| %t   Number of articles under the current thread (number).
| %e   Whether the thread is empty or not (character).
| %V   Total thread score (number).
| %P   The line number (number).
| %O   Download mark (character).
| %*   If present, indicates desired cursor position
|      (instead of after first colon).
| %u   User defined specifier.  The next character in the format string should
|      be a letter.  Gnus will call the function gnus-user-format-function-X,
|      where X is the letter following %u.  The function will be passed the
|      current header as argument.  The function should return a string, which
|      will be inserted into the summary just like information from any other
|      summary specifier.
| 
| The %U (status), %R (replied) and %z (zcore) specs have to be handled
| with care.  For reasons of efficiency, Gnus will compute what column
| these characters will end up in, and "hard-code" that.  This means that
| it is invalid to have these specs after a variable-length spec.  Well,
| you might not be arrested, but your summary buffer will look strange,
| which is bad enough.
| 
| The smart choice is to have these specs as far to the left as
| possible.
| 
| This restriction may disappear in later versions of Gnus.
| 
| General format specifiers can also be used.
| See Info node `(gnus)Formatting Variables'.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
`----


> I assume I can also do the things I'm used to in mutt such as mark
> messages as important,

Normally I go with

,----[ (info "(gnus)Unread Articles") ]
| `!'
|      Marked as ticked (`gnus-ticked-mark').
| 
|      "Ticked articles" are articles that will remain visible always.  If
|      you see an article that you find interesting, or you want to put
|      off reading it, or replying to it, until sometime later, you'd
|      typically tick it.
`----

for articles I want to reply to later.  To mark an article as important
scoring is the best way, I think.

See

,----[ (info "(gnus)Summary Score Commands") ]
| The score commands that alter score entries do not actually modify
| real score files.  That would be too inefficient.  Gnus maintains a
| cache of previously loaded score files, one of which is considered the
| "current score file alist".  The score commands simply insert entries
| into this list, and upon group exit, this list is saved.
`----


> gpg sign,

Have a look at EasyPGP [1] which is going to replace PGG.

> include citations in the message body easily, etc.?

I use something homebrewn with fortune and posting styles, but maybe
randomsig [2].

> Perhaps someone on the list can point me to a nice, heavily-commented
> .gnus file from which I can learn and pilfer some of the above? ;-)

Mine is at http://www.tsdh.de/configs/.gnus.el, but it's documented
mostly in German.  And the usual warning:  Don't copy stuff you don't
fully understand.

Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: gnus with Fastmail.fm account

[Trey Sizemore]

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:27:16 +0200
Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> wrote:

> Trey Sizemore <trey@fastmail.fm> writes:
> 
> Hi Trey,
> 
> > The default layout for messages looks a bit ugly for my taste, so
> > I'll need to read up on how to change this.
> 
> I think you mean
> 
> ,----[ C-h v gnus-summary-line-format RET ]
> | gnus-summary-line-format is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
> | Its value is 
> | "%U%R%z%4{%B%} %(%[%4L: %-20,20f%]%) %s\n"
> | 
> | 
> | Documentation:
> | *The format specification of the lines in the summary buffer.
> | 
> | It works along the same lines as a normal formatting string,
> | with some simple extensions.
> | 
> | %N   Article number, left padded with spaces (string)
> | %S   Subject (string)
> | %s   Subject if it is at the root of a thread, and "" otherwise
> | (string) %n   Name of the poster (string)
> | %a   Extracted name of the poster (string)
> | %A   Extracted address of the poster (string)
> | %F   Contents of the From: header (string)
> | %f   Contents of the From: or To: headers (string)
> | %x   Contents of the Xref: header (string)
> | %D   Date of the article (string)
> | %d   Date of the article (string) in DD-MMM format
> | %o   Date of the article (string) in YYYYMMDD`T'HHMMSS format
> | %M   Message-id of the article (string)
> | %r   References of the article (string)
> | %c   Number of characters in the article (integer)
> | %k   Pretty-printed version of the above (string)
> |      For example, "1.2k" or "0.4M".
> | %L   Number of lines in the article (integer)
> | %I   Indentation based on thread level (a string of spaces)
> | %B   A complex trn-style thread tree (string)
> |      The variables `gnus-sum-thread-*' can be used for
> | customization. %T   A string with two possible values: 80 spaces if
> | the article is on thread level two or larger and 0 spaces on level
> | one %R   "A" if this article has been replied to, " " otherwise
> | (character) %U   Status of this article (character, "R", "K", "-"
> | or " ") %[   Opening bracket (character, "[" or "<")
> | %]   Closing bracket (character, "]" or ">")
> | %>   Spaces of length thread-level (string)
> | %<   Spaces of length (- 20 thread-level) (string)
> | %i   Article score (number)
> | %z   Article zcore (character)
> | %t   Number of articles under the current thread (number).
> | %e   Whether the thread is empty or not (character).
> | %V   Total thread score (number).
> | %P   The line number (number).
> | %O   Download mark (character).
> | %*   If present, indicates desired cursor position
> |      (instead of after first colon).
> | %u   User defined specifier.  The next character in the format
> | string should be a letter.  Gnus will call the function
> | gnus-user-format-function-X, where X is the letter following %u.
> | The function will be passed the current header as argument.  The
> | function should return a string, which will be inserted into the
> | summary just like information from any other summary specifier.
> | 
> | The %U (status), %R (replied) and %z (zcore) specs have to be
> | handled with care.  For reasons of efficiency, Gnus will compute
> | what column these characters will end up in, and "hard-code" that.
> | This means that it is invalid to have these specs after a
> | variable-length spec.  Well, you might not be arrested, but your
> | summary buffer will look strange, which is bad enough.
> | 
> | The smart choice is to have these specs as far to the left as
> | possible.
> | 
> | This restriction may disappear in later versions of Gnus.
> | 
> | General format specifiers can also be used.
> | See Info node `(gnus)Formatting Variables'.
> | 
> | You can customize this variable.
> `----
> 
> 

Yes, it appears these are the ones I need to play around with.

> > I assume I can also do the things I'm used to in mutt such as mark
> > messages as important,
> 
> Normally I go with
> 
> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Unread Articles") ]
> | `!'
> |      Marked as ticked (`gnus-ticked-mark').
> | 
> |      "Ticked articles" are articles that will remain visible
> | always.  If you see an article that you find interesting, or you
> | want to put off reading it, or replying to it, until sometime
> | later, you'd typically tick it.
> `----
> 
> for articles I want to reply to later.  To mark an article as
> important scoring is the best way, I think.
> 
> See
> 
> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Summary Score Commands") ]
> | The score commands that alter score entries do not actually modify
> | real score files.  That would be too inefficient.  Gnus maintains a
> | cache of previously loaded score files, one of which is considered
> | the "current score file alist".  The score commands simply insert
> | entries into this list, and upon group exit, this list is saved.
> `----
> 

Yes, more so I want to mark as important such that it stands out from
other messages in a folder.  With mutt, it gets marked with a ! and
also highlights it in a different color.

> 
> > gpg sign,
> 
> Have a look at EasyPGP [1] which is going to replace PGG.
> 
> > include citations in the message body easily, etc.?
> 
> I use something homebrewn with fortune and posting styles, but maybe
> randomsig [2].

Thanks, good info.  Here I really meant citations like you did above
with [1] and [2].

> 
> > Perhaps someone on the list can point me to a nice,
> > heavily-commented .gnus file from which I can learn and pilfer some
> > of the above? ;-)
> 
> Mine is at http://www.tsdh.de/configs/.gnus.el, but it's documented
> mostly in German.  And the usual warning:  Don't copy stuff you don't
> fully understand.

My German is a bit rusty, so I don't know how much help it will be, but
thanks just the same.  I'll try to find some that are commented in
English.

> 
> Bye,
> Tassilo
> __________
> [1] http://www.easypg.org/
> [2] http://www.backmes.de/scripts+programs/randomsig.el
> 

Re: gnus with Fastmail.fm account

[Tassilo Horn]

Trey Sizemore <trey@fastmail.fm> writes:

>> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Summary Score Commands") ]
>> | The score commands that alter score entries do not actually modify
>> | real score files.  That would be too inefficient.  Gnus maintains a
>> | cache of previously loaded score files, one of which is considered
>> | the "current score file alist".  The score commands simply insert
>> | entries into this list, and upon group exit, this list is saved.
>> `----
>> 
>
> Yes, more so I want to mark as important such that it stands out from
> other messages in a folder.  With mutt, it gets marked with a ! and
> also highlights it in a different color.

Messages with higher score use a different face and you can sort by
score to list important messages first.

,----[ (info "(gnus)Sorting the Summary Buffer") ]
| If you are using a threaded summary display, you can sort the threads
| by setting `gnus-thread-sort-functions', which can be either a single
| function, a list of functions, or a list containing functions and
| `(not some-function)' elements.
`----

>> I use something homebrewn with fortune and posting styles, but maybe
>> randomsig [2].
>
> Thanks, good info.  Here I really meant citations like you did above
> with [1] and [2].

Ah, ok.  That's footnote.el which is included in Emacs.

Bye,
Tassilo