From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46063 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: TMDA (was: new spam functionality added) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:26:34 -0600 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <877kj11ctx.fsf@naz.lickey.com> References: <87y9brejam.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <873ctztyth.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <20020801222925.A10502@mastaler.com> <02Aug5.143835edt.119445@gateway.intersystems.com> <02Aug5.174118edt.119294@gateway.intersystems.com> <874re5wvrc.fsf@home.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028827634 9103 127.0.0.1 (8 Aug 2002 17:27:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17cr44-0002Mi-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:27:12 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17cr44-0002Sa-00; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:27:12 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:27:37 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27259 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:27:14 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 15504 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 2002 17:26:40 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 15499 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2002 17:26:40 -0000 Original-Received: from hank.lickey.com (ident-is-dumb@64.81.100.235) by gnus.org with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 17:26:40 -0000 Original-Received: from squeaker.lickey.com (squeaker.lickey.com [192.168.100.10]) by hank.lickey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500F6EE43; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:26:37 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by squeaker.lickey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1205AC195; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:26:37 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: from naz.lickey.com (naz.lickey.com [192.168.100.246]) by squeaker.lickey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8150CC179; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:26:36 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by naz.lickey.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8B22B28023; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:26:34 -0600 (MDT) Original-To: Steinar Bang In-Reply-To: <874re5wvrc.fsf@home.lan> (Steinar Bang's message of "Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:21:59 +0200") Original-Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46063 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46063 Steinar Bang writes: >>>>>> prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc): > >> David Masterson wrote: > >>> This means that the "From" or "Reply-to" address on their email now >>> has to be valid so that TMDA can send confirmation email to their >>> auto-confirmer. > >> Actually, it's the envelope sender, > > That's bad. It should be the actual From: header used in the > message. Is this configurable in TMDA? All types of automatic replies should go to the envelope sender. Failure to do that is how you end up with auto-replies getting sent to mailing lists, etc. >> which may or may not be easy for the recipient to look at, >> depending on all the software standing between them and their mail. > > Or it could disappear completely. > > I just found an email message from a cousin of mine in the SPAM > folder, when checking it for false positives. I let all messages > not adressed directly to me, or to a mailing list I subscribe to, > "drop through" into a spam folder, which I check occasionally. His > email program had in its infinite wisdom (billware...) decided to > use the envelope address, instead of the From: address. And the > envelope address wasn't in the list of official addresses in the > filter. > > By your description, all TMDA confirmation messages will end up in > my spam folder, and not be read until the next time Probably best to fix your envelope sender.