From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44403 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manoj Srivastava Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Autoloads no longer working? Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:01:11 -0500 Organization: The Golden Gryphon Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <877kmvups8.fsf@glaurung.green-gryphon.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019795978 15067 127.0.0.1 (26 Apr 2002 04:39:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170xWE-0003ut-00 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:39:38 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 170xVA-0000kK-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:38:32 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:38:44 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA08764 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:38:30 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 781 invoked by alias); 26 Apr 2002 04:38:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 776 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 04:38:12 -0000 Original-Received: from 12-218-240-201.client.mchsi.com (HELO glaurung.green-gryphon.com) (srivasta@12.218.240.201) by gnus.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 2002 04:38:12 -0000 Original-Received: from glaurung.green-gryphon.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by glaurung.green-gryphon.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g3Q342Aj021941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:07:47 -0500 Original-Received: (from srivasta@localhost) by glaurung.green-gryphon.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -5) id g3Q31DlY021348; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:01:13 -0500 X-Mailer: emacs 21.2.1 (via feedmail 9-beta-7 I) Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) (i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-URL: http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Time: Thu Apr 25 22:01:09 2002 X-Face: #q.#]5@vq!Jz+E0t_/;Y^gTjR\T^"B'fbeuVGiyKrvbfKJl!^e|e:iu(kJ6c|QYB57LP*|t &YlP~HF/=h:GA6o6W@I#deQL-%#.6]!z:6Cj0kd#4]>*D,|0djf'CVlXkI,>aV4\}?d_KEqsN{Nnt7 78"OsbQ["56/!nisvyB/uA5Q.{)gm6?q.j71ww.>b9b]-sG8zNt%KkIa>xWg&1VcjZk[hBQ>]j~`Wq Xl,y1a!(>6`UM{~'X[Y_,Bv+}=L\SS*mA8=s;!=O`ja|@PEzb&i0}Qp,`Z\:6:OmRi* In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:21:29 +0200") Original-Lines: 27 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44403 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44403 >>"Kai" =3D=3D Kai Gro=C3=9Fjohann wri= tes: Kai> Andreas Fuchs writes: >> I add the path as soon as possible; Even when I start emacs with -q, the >> features are present. Could that be a debian emacs bug? Kai> Ayee. I think Debian has /etc/emacs/site-start.d which contains Kai> files which might load Gnus. The file you are thinking about is installed by the standalone gnus package in Debian, and not by the various flavours of emacsen. Specifically, the file is /etc/emacs20/site-start.d/20gnus-init.el. It is not installed for emacs21. And when it is run for emacs20, the first thing it does to put the file path for the standalone gnus at the beginning of the load path. I am running oort gnus (as you can see from the headers) on Debian with emacs21, and I have no problems with autoloads; I do not think this is a just a simple Debian issue. manoj --=20 Never volunteer for anything. Lackland Manoj Srivastava 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C