From: Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: for a given emacs session: insert a subject with an increasing counter
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 05:32:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rzqa9j5.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bl54glpc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>
Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> Oh, no!
>>
>> I didn't know of this (never seen it). I have used global
>> variables to hold the "state" (be a memory between function
>> calls) but I've also done more involved solutions like
>> properties and even self-modifying code :O
>>
>> And all the while, it was this easy ...
>
> TBH, I've never actually used a closure in anger, probably
> just because it doesn't occur to me. I'll bet if I went back
> and looked over the code I've written in the past I could
> find some situations where I could have used them, but...
> *shrug*
I think I heard that you shouldn't use, or that you should
avoid, global variables the first time when I was 12.
I understood it enough to stick by it and I guess my code was
good to me 5-6 days out of 7 at least.
However it would have been even better if it had been
formulized like this ...
When the situation is <something>, while a global variable
would solve it, <something else> is preferable ...
So, doing now what we were unable to do at age 12, we can
formulate one such rule:
When the situation is like that, that a function needs
a state or local memory, which cannot be reset from one
function call to the other, use a closure!
It is easy to add rules ...
When the value has the nature of an user option, a global
variable is fine ...
But what about when two (or more) functions need access to the
same variable, how should that be done? Local functions
(`cl-labels'), parameters, evaluation - don't know, is there
a short answer? - or can one have several functions in a/one
closure `let'?
Aaanyway, I think the best way to approach this is to grep the
source for `defvar' (or baseline `setq'), prune the options,
and then ...
(Unbelievable that I never read this in a single computer book
of all the tons I've read. Unbelievable people who write
them. Or?)
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-21 3:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-30 16:01 Uwe Brauer
2021-08-30 16:10 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-30 18:46 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-31 6:50 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-08-31 6:58 ` Adam Sjøgren
2021-08-31 15:42 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-08-31 15:54 ` Adam Sjøgren
2021-09-02 8:15 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-09-04 15:30 ` [misunderstanding] (was: for a given emacs session: insert a subject with an increasing counter) Uwe Brauer
2021-09-07 20:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-09-01 3:55 ` for a given emacs session: insert a subject with an increasing counter Bodertz
2021-09-04 15:25 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-09-07 17:12 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-09-07 19:02 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-07 19:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-09-07 20:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-09-07 20:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-09-07 20:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-21 3:32 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2021-09-21 19:12 ` Bodertz
2021-09-21 21:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-08-31 7:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-08-31 7:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2021-08-31 16:01 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-08-31 16:29 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-31 19:06 ` Uwe Brauer
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