From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88935 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: A new open email standard: https://jmap.io/ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:46:08 +0100 Message-ID: <878smxft6n.fsf@randomsample> References: <87h81mzsv4.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0caf0cb.fsf@randomsample> <87fth5ixyr.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="241858"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: ding-owner+M37138@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Dec 27 20:47:24 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ikvZs-0010XH-N2 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:47:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1ikvZF-0002a1-7c; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:46:37 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1ikvZB-0002XL-8f for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:46:33 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1ikvZ9-0000DL-RJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:46:33 -0600 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ikvZ3-0004jq-1I for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:46:27 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=R0ZCl8jS/NILNR5S5T3Qn5pPkvIfeEwHQHOEg7Su4WI=; b=t8mbD2uip/qfqyAbqyB/KjoZ4+Ehjvz+r9R7zOtR3Qp0OTzSBj6L/K4W3hoimuvFba8a2Wa9HFQiilSV1BIcAhstIZb+cmxCbHgDMdLClKuRJZvTQ4qJWf7rC/C8bAEr; Original-Received: from ip5f5abab0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([95.90.186.176] helo=void) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ikvZ1-0003mp-I5; Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:46:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87fth5ixyr.fsf@gnu.org> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:34:36 +0100") List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88935 Archived-At: >>> https://fastmail.blog/2019/08/16/jmap-new-email-open-standard/ >>> https://jmap.io/ >> >> They try to establish this for many years now, but I don't see it >> taking off. It surely has nice features for mobile users, but people >> use messengers there anyway. For Gnus, I don't think you'd notice much >> difference over IMAP. But first they would have to get this into an >> actual popular IMAP server (meaning: Dovecot). Until then, this is >> pretty much a Fastmail-only thing. > > Cyrus 3.0.0 to 3.0.5 supported some earlier draft but the support was > removed with 3.0.6 because the spec evolved too rapidly for a stable > version. But the docs say that the development version supports the > current JMAP version. > > https://cyrusimap.org/imap/developer/jmap.html I know. FastMail uses Cyrus and they have also pretty much adopted the whole project since Carnegie Mellon Uni switched to Exchange and GMail, so it's pretty much given that it always supports latest JMAP. But if you need a pure IMAP server, Dovecot is usually the first choice nowadays, so if they want JMAP to succeed, they *really* need to get this in there. I know they're working on this, but I'm guessing it's not easy getting code into Dovecot. -David