From: Bob Newell <bobnewell@bobnewell.net>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Proposed new introductory section to the Gnus manual
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 08:34:08 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878sqoqee7.fsf@bobnewell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tv9ddk64.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:55:31 +0800")
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> Oh I definitely agree, and have no intention of reducing Gnus'
> user-facing complexity. But I think a bit more hand-holding for newbies
> couldn't hurt. It was truly frustrating in the beginning.
I should clarify that I'm in no way advocating gnus being
some sort of elitist club, to which one must earn entry by
becoming proficient in elisp and undergoing initiation rites
which include the pain and suffering nearly all of us felt at
the outset (and often well beyond).
Hand-holding for newbies is a great idea. And perhaps a
carefully curated selection of sample .gnus files would really
go a long way. There are various things out there now, but
they are by turns scattered, contradictory, and at times
outdated.
I'll stand with my assertion that, if you're going to truly
benefit from gnus and make it sing and dance to the exact tune
you desire, you'll have to reach a certain level with elisp,
perhaps something between advanced beginner and intermediate
(though I won't try to define these). But that's further
along. If you don't get past square one, it's all moot.
--
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i
* Via Gnus/BBDB/Org/Emacs/Linux *
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-16 18:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-18 23:26 Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-19 0:34 ` dick.r.chiang
2019-08-19 1:06 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-19 2:46 ` Bob Newell
2019-08-19 7:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-20 4:26 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-20 11:37 ` dick
2019-09-09 8:13 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-09 11:52 ` dick
2019-09-09 18:39 ` Bob Newell
2019-09-09 19:48 ` dick
2019-09-10 2:36 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-10 20:21 ` dick
2019-09-10 23:50 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-12 19:19 ` Michael
2019-09-13 9:19 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-13 15:08 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-09-13 16:54 ` Michael
2019-09-16 2:51 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-13 18:24 ` Bob Newell
2019-09-13 18:39 ` Change input method or smtp server depending on addressee (was: Proposed new introductory section to the Gnus manual) Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2019-09-14 17:38 ` Change input method or smtp server depending on addressee Štěpán Němec
2019-09-16 18:26 ` Bob Newell
2019-09-16 8:52 ` Robert Pluim
2019-12-20 12:54 ` 황병희
2019-09-16 2:55 ` Proposed new introductory section to the Gnus manual Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-16 18:34 ` Bob Newell [this message]
2019-09-10 20:39 ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-09-10 20:54 ` dick
2019-09-12 5:31 ` Steinar Bang
2019-09-07 19:50 ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-09-08 17:00 ` Bob Newell
2019-08-19 16:01 ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-08-19 18:04 ` Bob Newell
2019-08-19 18:09 ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-08-20 4:29 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-07 19:44 ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-08-19 16:16 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-20 7:08 ` Bjørn Mork
2019-08-20 9:51 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-20 10:32 ` Bjørn Mork
2019-08-20 10:55 ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-19 17:55 ` Adam Sjøgren
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