From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/84042 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: still want Seen articles split... 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My > ESF> solution to this problem was to ensure that all emails are moved to > ESF> other folders when splitting, leaving INBOX empty each time. For those > ESF> emails that you would normally have left in INBOX, create a "general" > ESF> folder and move them there. > > ESF> Alternatively, do the splitting on the server instead of in gnus. > > ESF> Both approaches can work -- I've done both and, in fact, currently use a > ESF> combination of the two. On the server, I split those emails I would > ESF> seldom, if ever, want to look at on a mobile device. Gnus splits all > ESF> others, seen or not. > > I keep everything from one account in a single INBOX to keep it > manageable with other tools, but another account is always split into > folders. Both approaches make sense in context. > > I can't think of a good general solution, sorry. A gnus-seen flag would > help but not in every situation. Fair enough. Both approaches do make sense, and generally speaking server-side splitting seems far the most reasonable thing to do. I only wish Gmail supported bulk import of filters -- I'm pretty wedded to my BBDB-based splitting. Thanks, Eric