Gnus development mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:03:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:05:18 -0500")

On Wed, Oct 15 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote: 
>>>>> (define-coding-system-alias 'utf8 'utf-8)
>>>>> (define-coding-system-alias 'UTF8 'utf-8)
> KH> I agree that defining those aliases causes no problem.

BTW, is the uppercase variant useful?  AFAICS, it is the only
uppercase variant...

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
-*- mode: grep; default-directory: ".../emacs/lisp/international/" -*-
Grep started at Wed Oct 15 23:58:55

grep -nH -e define-coding-system-alias.*[A-Z] *.el
mule-conf.el:1279:(define-coding-system-alias 'UTF8 'utf-8)

Grep finished (matches found) at Wed Oct 15 23:58:55
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

> RS> I seem to recall that (define-coding-system-alias 'utf8 'utf-8) might
> RS> trigger Gnus into sending articles with "Content-type: text/plain;
> RS> charset=utf8" which would be plain wrong [1][2].  But I'm not sure.
>
> If it does we can fix it (maybe it can prefer the original coding system
> before trying its aliases).

On a second though, there must be such a check already, since there
are plenty of coding-system alias which aren't MIME charsets.

> RS> If it becomes a more frequent mistake, we might add (utf8 . utf-8) to
> RS> the default value `mm-charset-synonym-alist'.  I hesitate to pollute
> RS> `mm-charset-synonym-alist' by adding entries for each and every pilot
> RS> error.
>
> It's not a pilot error at this point, 

How do you know?

> the mangled names have been in common usage for years...

Not in the context of mail/news.  See the little statistics in the
above mentioned thread.

Bye, Reiner.
-- 
       ,,,
      (o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo---  |  PGP key available  |  http://rsteib.home.pages.de/



  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-15 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-14 20:30 jidanni
2008-10-14 20:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15  0:39   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-15 16:10     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-15 17:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15 19:49       ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-15 19:05         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15 22:03           ` Reiner Steib [this message]
2008-10-15 21:23             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  0:15               ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-20 16:23                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-21  0:01                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-15 23:35                     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-16  4:32               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-16  6:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-16 13:01                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  2:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 14:27               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-16 15:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 17:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-17 19:59                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-18 19:01                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  1:14                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-20  3:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  8:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-20 17:04                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  4:39                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21  5:23                               ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  6:25                                 ` tomas
2008-10-21  6:21                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  7:44                                     ` tomas
2008-10-21  8:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21  9:06                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 10:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21 12:06                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 12:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22  2:34                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  4:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 21:02                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22  0:32                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  4:27                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-27  4:51                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21  8:06                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-20 16:00                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-20 22:03                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  2:50                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21 16:00                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-22  1:22                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  2:07                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  6:21                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-23  2:34                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-23 21:08                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-24  0:54                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-24 18:36                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22 13:15                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-24 17:21                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-25  2:01                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25  2:32                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31  6:33                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-31  7:24                                     ` Miles Bader
2008-10-31 19:31                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-01  2:17                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-02  1:53                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-07  7:15                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-07 17:04                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25 18:27                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31 21:29                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-10  5:43                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-10 15:01                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16  1:12         ` Kenichi Handa

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de \
    --to=reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc \
    --cc=Reiner.Steib@gmx.de \
    --cc=ding@gnus.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).